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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 348 of 348I just saw Nuti and Elvis having lunch .
I saw Nuti touch another man .
FBI UPDATE : Nuti and Cheatem (file #62209221) We aquired DNA samples of these two bone smuggling suspects. We will update you with our progress when and if necessary.
WE HAD ONE OF THESE "SMARTECH" CE'S RIDING ALONG WITH ONE OF OUR AREA CE'S ALSO. IF THIS HAPPENS TO YOU REFUSE TO PICK UP THE SCAB. GO TO http://www.smartech-csi.com AND YOU'LL SEE NCR, IBM & UNISIS ARE ALL USING SMARTECH ALREADY. YOU'VE BEEN WARNED..
I just looked down and saw Nutti. And boy did he suck. Used teeth and everything.
It's got to be too much of a coincidense that Smartech is based in Austin, just like FLT. Am I the only one who thinks that something is going on with this?
to all the people talking about cheadle and nuti and homo crap--it sure doesn't make this board look very good. i don't care for either of them but how about keeping the high school chatter off this board. if these are the kind of people we have working in the rest of the country it's no wonder we are where we are now.
pay us like professonals, and we will act professonal, until then kiss my ex-ce3 ass
Nope..I agree...Something is up...The company will make their move soon...It will be the end of the CEs. The only way to counter this is to sign in this union
Support your NCR
NCR has been moving to a new organisational structure to enable it to improve the company’s cost effectiveness and drive new business growth on a global basis
Just saying
First Level Technology LLC
6805 N. Capital of Texas Highway
Suite 210
Austin, TX 78731-1749
SMARTECH Computer Services, Inc.
3801 South Capitol of Texas Highway
Suite 240
Austin, TX 78735
Capitol?
Site has not been updated in over a year and if you want a house in Austin there is a link at the bottom of the page
to all the people talking about cheadle and nuti and homo crap--it sure doesn't make this board look very good
I know the the Nut Job is a homosexual and he loves fucking CEs and tries to grab their balls at the Ctec Holiday Inn on Friday nights. I didn't hear that about the Cheatem man. The only thing I heard about the Cheatem ass hole is that he is a no good lier scum bag. Who picks his nose in public and doesn't wash his hands when he comes out of the shiter (disgusting).
Support your NCR
NCR has been moving to a new organisational structure to enable it to improve the company’s cost effectiveness and drive new business growth on a global basis
MESSAGE FROM BILL,
Yes I agree. Don't you love how I just got done fucking all those Dundee, Scottish factory workers.
I sent all those cheap ass workers from India over there to take the Scotty's jobs away.
In their honor I just bought a little Scottish Terrier whom I named Scotty. We'll be going to Fire Island this weekend aboard my yacht the "CE3". The boys will just love him.
As always HA-RAY for me and FUCK YOU.
Bill
My cousin in the FBI followed Nutty to a N.A.M.B.L.A. meeting on the west side of NYC last night. He tried to disguise himself in a Dutch boy sailer uniform with wooden shoes. But that didn't fool the local FBI they can spot a bone smuggler from a mile away my cousin said.
"Support your NCR
NCR has been moving to a new organisational structure to enable it to improve the company’s cost effectiveness and drive new business growth on a global basis."
Did it improve the companys cost effectiveness to give Nuti a raise, a bonus, a new jet, and new offices in New York? How did that save the company anything? But he doesnt care, let all of the CE3's pay for it. And he will continue to cut pay and jobs until the comany is broke, then he will take his money and run. He can do that because HE HAS A CONTRACT, unlike the ce's. And he will do anything to keep the CE's from getting a contract.
THE CLASS ACTION SUIT IN CALIFORNIA CAN BE EXPANDED TO ALL OF US IF YOU THE SCREWED CE THAT STARTED AT 07:30 AND WORKED TO 5 PM WITH NO LUNCH OR BREAKS WILL CALL THE ATTOURNEY AT THE FOLLOWING NUMBERS CALL LEE ANDERSON AT 800-714-0360 OR 816-714- 7114...... I DID HE SAID LAST CASE LIKE THIS EACH PERSON GO APPROX 20K DOLLARS BACK PAY!!!!!
MAKE THIS CALL!!!!
SIGN THAT DAMNED UNION CARD LETS GET IT GOING I'M TIRED OF BEING SCREWED BY NCR!!!!!!
The Homo stuff is pretty lame. This is not a comedy audition. If it was you would be gone by now.
What do you mean lame? What's so funny, ass hole? We have been fucked out of our pay by this faggit Nutty. Who flaunts his gayness wherever he goes. Is it comical that he cut our pay and gave himself a multi million dollar raise?
What are you his boyfriend? If you are I have some advice for you and your boyfriend Bill. Silly faggits dicks are for girls.
All service company's will be using "rent-a-tech" service from recruitment companys that provide technicians. It's the way of the future. A flat rate per call will be paid to the service provider. Service is not as important as it used to be. It's not a specialized area anymore. Most systems are pc based. The era of the NCR tech soon will no longer exist. It's too late to go union, or do anything about it now. We are all done, just a matter of months. NCR is one step ahead. Just be careful where the landmines are planted. If you can get a package now, it's time to get out. I wish each and everyone good luck. I see the writting on the wall. Hope you do also before it's too late.
""One of the CE's in our zone recently had a C.E. from Smartech ride along with him to see what our job is like. This Smartech employee was from Brooklyn so look out NYC.""
I had 2 Smartech guys with me. 1 at a time of course. 1 could barely speak english. 1 was trained in Ohio the other in a warehouse in LI (Both for ATM ONLY). Both were from NYC. I figured they were being brought in for the "strike". Laughable since when they were with me I ran mostly POS calls.
How can a contractor fix ATM's? They new guys we hire and send to school, still can't fix them after a year in the field!!!
After reading most postings on this blog, I am totally embarrassed to be associated with most of the posters here. There are VERY few intelligent postings. The name calling and sightings of Nutti etc are just so childish. I thought NCR CE's were fairly intelligent, but you people are proving NCR to be correct, your ignorant, name calling, posts are just and embarrassment to the intelligent,literate CE's out here trying to LEARN something. But instead we have to read through page after page of CRAP.
So please grow up and post like the men I know you are and not like the 12 year olds that seem to be posting here.
I AGREE i THOUGHT WE ARE SUPPOSE TO BE DISCUSSING A MIVEMENT HERE AND WHAT WE WANT NOTTALNG ABOUT nUTTI AND cHEALES BOWEL MOVEMENTS
i agree with some of the above posters. how childish and immature to post all this stuff about nuti and cheadle. instead of posting crap like that why don't people go talk to others in their area and get them on board. it sure doesn't make me feel proud to be associated with people like that. and for the poster about the rent-a-tech..yes-most of the systems today are pc based, but the software is different on most all of them. they can hire rent a techs but they will never be able to fix the equipment very well and soon the customers will be gone to someone else..a sad state of affairs for sure
Someone has a real Homophobia problem. Grow up and get serious. Try to do something about the problems and stop with the LAME Homo jokes ect. If you are such a tuff guy, post your name and location.
We have talked and talked all about a union since Jan of 2008. Most of it was great and intelligent postings on why we should have a union. If you don't know why we need one yet then you are a mental patient or a friend of the Nut job.
Out of all the postings on how mistreated we are you are offended when we call our CEO the homo that he is.
We have been fucked by this gay basterd and Cheatem has the smell of shit on his hands from doing Nuti's dirty work. Do I have to explain the metaphors? Are you that stupid? Either you are friends of that piece of shit exuse for a human being or just stupid.
Nutty is the one who has shown the world how gay he is, not us.
Sprint Nextel Announces Appointment of William Nuti to Its Board of Directors
Mon Jun 9, 2008 4:45pm EDT
Sprint (NYSE:S) today announced the appointment of William (Bill)
Nuti to the company's Board of Directors. Nuti is the chairman, CEO
and president of NCR Corporation, a global technology company based in
Dayton, Ohio.
"We welcome Bill Nuti as an excellent addition to our board," said
James Hance, chairman of the board of Sprint Nextel. "He has a strong
record of guiding companies through change to better position them for
growth and greater profitability, and his performance at NCR is a
prime example of what he can do. We look forward to his input as
Sprint continues our aggressive efforts to improve our business."
"I'm pleased to be a member of the Sprint Nextel board," Nuti
said. "Both the board and the management team are clearly committed to
improving the company's performance, and I look forward to
contributing to the company's progress."
Nuti, 44, joined NCR in 2005, and initiated organizational and
process changes to better position the company for growth. Since his
arrival, NCR's stock has appreciated more than 50 percent. Before
that, he served as president and CEO of Symbol Technologies, where he
strengthened the company's product portfolio and positioned it as a
leading supplier in the emerging radio frequency identification (RFID)
industry. While at Symbol, Nuti led a challenging, but highly
successful turnaround effort which returned the company to
profitability for the first time in five years, and from 2002 to 2004
increased revenue growth by 24 percent.
Earlier in his career, Nuti held positions of increasing
responsibility for over 10 years at Cisco Systems, where he last
served as senior vice president of their United States operations as
well as their senior vice president of their global service provider
business. During his Cisco tenure, Nuti was also president of their
Europe Middle East and Africa theater of operations as well as Cisco's
Asia Pacific operations.
Nuti will serve on the Board until the 2009 annual meeting, when
he will be nominated for re-election by shareholders at that time.
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Dutch boy disguise posting.
Our last CEO was from Holland. Nutty wants to be like him. But he never can because he is more intersted in his own sick selfish pleasures. FBI seeing through his disguise means we can all see what an idiot he is. I can write more about what else it's about but figure it out for yourself.
Hopefully this will help those who say they are offended by the postings. Lighten up. Read past what you think they say and feel the anger in our hearts. We are angry and too old to change carreers to make what we were making. We have families to take care of and don't know how we are going to do it.
If you want to be offended, be offended by what happens when a selfish evil man gets power.
BE OFFENDED BY HOW MANY FAMILIES BILL NUTI IS DESTROYING!
Sprint Nextel Announces Appointment of William Nuti to Its Board of Directors
Mon Jun 9, 2008 4:45pm EDT
I guess that explains why we all have Sprint cell phones.
Sounds like a conflict of interest if you ask me.
Oh wait, that is the same thing HURD did before he left for HP. Brokered a nice losing contract with HP to service Bank of America
Gays make up 7% of the population of the Unites States. Must be about 30 Gay Ce's in the NY Area by my math. Company wide about 3000. And no I am not gay. I just don't get the Homo phobic retoric.Let's call them evil, thieves, Bastards, ect. I don't get the perverse need to demean a whole lot of my fellow employees who may have wanted to join the Union.
Isn't that appointment a conflict of interest ????????
ncr sprint??? they are our vendor and we are there vendor?????????????
if idid something like this i think i wouldbe in jail???
so he now has control over what ncr pays for service and what sprint pays ncr for service ????
sounds fishy
ANSWER....
Question:
I have been getting mailings from NCR and IBEW... When I opened them I noticed one distinct difference NCR was in black and white and the unions was in COLOR. WHY? Are we children and have to have color pushed in our faces to make us read it? And how much more $$$ did it cost to do it in color than in black and white????
When we get in the union that will be OUR money spent on stupid looking COLOR mailings.
YOU ARE A SO FUNNY. ARE YOU AL, ROGER, OR BOB???? IF YOU ARE WORRIED ABOUT THE MAILING, YOU BETTER PULL YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS. NCR STEALS MILLION FROM CE'S AND YOUR WORRIED ABOUT MAILING???
NCR is not the enemy, they pay your mortgage, buy your food, send your kids to school, pay for your gas, and fuel in the winter. You want more money? You DO have an expense account don't you? LEARN how to use it. Just don't ABUSE it....
I WORKED HARD TO GET RAISES AND PUT IN YEARS OF LARBOR TO GET TO THE PAY I USE TO GET. NCR PAYS ME FOR MY TIME. I PAY THE MORTGAGE NOT NCR. I PAY ALL THE BILLS NOT NCR... WHERE DO YOU COME UP WITH THIS CRAP? IF I LEAVE NCR, I WILL STILL PAY MY BILLS, NEVER INSULT USE WITH THIS CRAP ABOUT NCR BEING SO KIND...WE WORK FOR THE MONEY WE MAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Not sure why anyone is sooo upset about nutti's or cheatles pay they signed a contract and their pay raises are predetermined. They were not hired off the street like us and if they achieved their contract goals and were not given the raise they would have quit and sued (and won) for a lot more than the raise they got. they are in essense their own union. Ncr board agreed to their contracts. If you are a share holder and didn't voice your opinion against them next time vote.
Not sure why anyone is sooo upset about nutti's or cheatles pay they signed a contract and their pay raises are predetermined. They were not hired off the street like us and if they achieved their contract goals and were not given the raise they would have quit and sued (and won) for a lot more than the raise they got. they are in essense their own union. Ncr board agreed to their contracts. If you are a share holder and didn't voice your opinion against them next time vote.
That is what we want now, a contract. If its good enough for them, it should be good enough for us. Then maybe we will have predetermined raises and bonus will be based on something realistic, and cant be changed everytime Nuti needs a new plane or office.
Whatever happens here at NCR can't be good(as we have experienced so far). So lets all find new jobs at our competitors and screw NCR where it hurts! The previous posts are true. NCR will do what they want to do. There are alot of CE's who dont have the courage to vote in a Union, or the Union can't back them up on strike duty pay to help pay the mortgage or put food on the table during a strike will not vote YES! They think someone is going to call-in for a card and send it to them. If you want the Union call in yourself and request cards for everyone in your team! When the card is there in the mailbox when they come home after being thrown around like an idiot all day they will surely send it back to the postmaster with a yes. To NCR management: ACT like a respectable employer, TREAT your employees like they are your most important asset, FEEL the PAIN of your punch. Give yourself a paycut and worry how the food will get on the table after the mortgage is paid. Now take a step back and ask yourselves if you made the best decision?
It's really shocking to read all the vulgarity, and idiotic nonsense on this blog. you guys that are posting this garbage are either really stupid, very childish or both. hopefully you are just really young guys who haven't matured yet. if that's not that case you should be ashamed of yourself for acting like a pimply face teanager. either grow up or go work somehwhere to be in the company of other morons.
"It's really shocking to read all the vulgarity, and idiotic nonsense on this blog. you guys that are posting this garbage are either really stupid, very childish or both. hopefully you are just really young guys who haven't matured yet. if that's not that case you should be ashamed of yourself for acting like a pimply face teanager. either grow up or go work somehwhere to be in the company of other morons."
Since my pay cut, I act like a Hate Filled Moron, and will do so until I leave ncr!!!
MESSAGE FROM BILL,
Yes this gay bashing has got to stop.
What I do in the privacy of my own mansion, 2 jet airplanes, 2 world head quarters (NYC and Dayton), helicopter, yacht(the CE3), my girly man CEs who are too scared to vote union, and what ever else my greedy ass owns is my business. I will kick your ass if you homophobes don't stop. Just send me your name and location if you want a piece of me.
There was another tragedy aboard my yacht the "CE3" this weekend. Scotty my new puppy ate my cell phone and it got stuck in his butt when he tried to shit it out. What made it worse was that I always keep my phone on vibrate. Every time somebody called he would cry out in pain. I could not take his whining any longer so pulled the phone out of his ass myself. That piece of junk phone broke in my hands it was so disgusting. There were at least one hundred missed calls, one hundred yelps of pain anyway.
Well Scotty is getting to be a demanding pain in the ass so I bought him a little companion whom I named Indy. A new little INDIAN BULL TERRIER pup for him to play with. He eats Wal-Mart dog food and loves to sleep outside in his Wal-Mart dog house. Hopefully Scotty will stop growling at him and me start acting more like a good little Indy pup.
Anyway JULY 18th is coming so get ready for your pay cuts you teamster scum bags. Dare you try to take my money; I mean the company’s money.
As always HA-RAY for me and FUCK YOU
BILL
for those turned off by all the off color comments. this is an open blog where some very important dialogue has taken place.Ask yourself who has the most to gain by using these tactics? the union gains nothing by alienating people can the company make the same statement?
Grow up people. This is our livelyhoods we are blogging about!
To the above 2 post at 8:11 and 8:58,
What the fuck are you talking about? Your worried you might hurt Nut Jobs feelings? Wake up idiots he cut our pay, closed factory's and moved them to China, laid off good people in Dundee and replaced them with cheap labor. Our working conditions suck.
Send the fucking cards in so we can get this union in now. Quit worrying about political correct bull shit we need to get our good jobs back.
There is nothing else to talk about except make fun of this elitist piece of shit and the pussies who stick by him.
I am grown up ass hole I sent my card in and made sure others sent in theirs. I'm ready to fight to get this union in. I have nothing to lose but a shitty job.
I'm done talking nice and trying convince the retarded they need a union. Lets get it fucking done already or give up and find other jobs.
One more thing, fuck you Bill Nutty and all his faggets who did not send your cards in.
imagine being able to negotiate wages, benefits and working conditions.. just like Nutti and Cheadle. vote yes!
To who ever wrote,
It's really shocking to read all the vulgarity,
YOU NO WHATS SHOCKING TO ME?
THAT 500 CE3s GOT THEIR PAY CUT AFTER YEARS OF LOYAL SERVICE AND A RECORD PROFIT YEAR FOR THE COMPANY.
NCR FACTORY'S ARE CLOSED AND WORK IS MOVED TO, "CHINA". A COUNTRY WHO HAS THREATENED TO NUKE US, USES CHILD AND SLAVE LABOR, RUNS THEIR PEOPLE OVER WITH TANKS IF THEY DARE PROTEST.
GOOD LIFETIME LOYAL WORKERS IN DUNDEE, SCOTLAND BEING REPLACED BY CHEAP LABOR FROM INDIA.
BILL NUTI GIVING HIMSELF A MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR RAISE, MOVING WORLD HEAD QUARTERS TO NYC, BUYING JETS, HELICOPTERS AND OTHER EXTRAVAGANT UNNEEDED EXPENSES WHILE OTHERS SUFFER PAY CUTS, LAY-OFFS AND OUTSOURCING.
THAT YOUR WORRIED ABOUT VULGARITY FROM ANGRY WORKERS WHO ARE TRYING TO GET A UNION IN.
I JUST DON'T GET YOUR BLINDNESS AND IGNORANCE.
Nuti one step ahead. This guy is smart. I would like to be a fly on the wall when he is thinking up all of this.
There is still no reason to degrade people on this blog who may be of a particular persuasion. Why don't you start calling management cheap Jews, stupid Pollacks, dumb N------, greasy Wops,ect. or in this case faggots. Maybe you are really management or one of their stoogies trying to stir up trouble on this blog. I don't want to be in a Union with the likes of you. This is not a comedy tryout, let's stick to business.
Okay you and all your Homo friends don't join.
Every other nationality hurry up and vote union or send in your union cards.
Vulgar and funny people are welcome we need more comedy and anger. I would hate to be in a union meeting with a bunch of politically correct mama's boys. If I wanted that I’d be in upper management.
Nuti one step ahead. This guy is smart. I would like to be a fly on the wall when he is thinking up all of this.
July 15, 2008 8:49 AM
WOW LOOK EVEN "SATIN" IS WRITING IN THE BLOG NOW. HE LOVES MEN LIKE THE NUT JOB.
WOW LOOK EVEN "SATIN" IS WRITING IN THE BLOG NOW. HE LOVES MEN LIKE THE NUT JOB.
For God's sake, learn to spell. I guess silk and denim will be here next. I dont mind angry CE's, but obnoxious ones just show their stupidity. And I would think most of the people who visit this blog have already sent their cards in. What a goof.
*CHEADLE SIDE SHOW COMING TO TOWN*
The man himself is coming to talk to fence sitters and FLT hires. This man is a PRO at lying. Beware of men promising gifts. This is how it will go "first he will be nice, then he will make you fear for your job. Then he will make you feel good again, by telling you how you are the future of NCR. He will make it clear that the UNION will kill your job. ALL BULL SH@T.
Without the UNION your job is gone again, you have to move over to the outsourcing company when He bring them in. You be stuck make peanuts like you make now. NO CHANCE of every making better pay.
"Nuti one step ahead. This guy is smart."
What is so smart about the destruction of NCR? He's just a lying backstabbing cocksucker!
That's it. I am done with this stupid blog. What a waste of time. See you in the unemployment line.
Enough with all the faggot comments. I am a gay man that has worked for ncr for over 11 years. I am a great tech and I have sent my card in.
Yeah and my Brother is gay too, big deal! We're all humam's and need to take good care of ourselves and everyone around us. Did you hear Cheadle is going around to NCR meetings now trying to "scare" the fence sitters into voting no. We should lynch the bastard!
I will give each of you CE's a candy or bubble gum if you don't vote for a Union :)
Do not listen to what NCR is saying at the DONT JOIN THE UNION MEETINGS!.. they claim that the union will destroy the company. What a bunch of bullcrap. The UNION has been in NYC for more than 30 years and has never harmed the company. It has only enhanced my work experience. The company is afraid of the union ruining their plans for our destruction that they have planned for us! Just enjoy the free coffee and bagels and yes them to death. Then vote yes for a union!
can someone post when the judge decides if nyc has to take the paycut.
This Friday is when hopfully the judge will decide no pay cut. Instead give us the well deserved raise we asked for.
The company made money on our hard work, we should be rewarded for it.
Get your union going guys before it's to late.
It sounds like a REVOLUTION is about to start.. Please do not let what the NYC judge persuade your decision to join the union. Even if the boys in NYC take a cut, we still need to push back now. It will be too late to push back after the company outsources us.
The truth of the matter is that there are not enough jobs out there for all of us. Believe me, I have a dozen job applications out there and no one is calling.
This is what the Jews do they rape our pocket books
Vote union and take back white America and push the Jews out of power.
The fight must start here
Stop with the racist remark you fucking idiot! This is not the forum for this kind of talk. Not to mention its against the law!!!
The company is running scared.. The email that was just sent out is totally one sided...Not to mention a bunch of crap. I have been a teamster all my 23 years here at NCR and have never regretted a single minute of it. As a matter of fact, I has been a blessing so far!. Just join the union and teach this company that they can not screw us for no reason!!!
I see the company is telling more lies about the union. WHERE does the company guarantee it wont cut our pay again, our benefits, our very jobs. This company has lied and cheated us out of everything, only to give raises and bonus's to the upper management. To hell with them. Vote Union, what can they possibly do that is worse than the company hasnt already done? And Cheat-le seems to think we are all morons. You will always know when Cheat-le is lying, his lips will be moving. Please do not fall for this crap the company is sending out. First New England, then hopefully the rest of the country will go Union
the email was really kinda funny. i wanted to ask them how my 24% paycut wasn't the same as stealing. they said an 8 week strike could cost me 5k.. geez--thats almost 9k less than the company just ripped me off for when they cut my pay-not even taking the overtime difference into account. it sure makes the union sound like a good investment doesn't it!
No matter what happens now or in the future. I believe NCR just turns used to be "WORKING HARD" CE BECOME "HARDLY WORKING" CE.
It is just simple " You got what you pay". NCR pays less then it will get less.
Young and able CE will eventully leave. the Old/experiemced will not fuction as before. NEW CE may have not much complain, but for all due respects, they will never reach the level as the old style CE. They are hired as first line and will remain first line forever. NCR will not promote them just let them come and go, so NCR will never raise the pay. It is a very sad situation for TECH. TECH used to mean something but not any more. Every US corp is following what McDonold has been doing for years. Minimu wage and part timers/outsourcing in our cases.
BUT at least we should fight. There is still a chance that we can stop the clock for a long long time. We will defintely be regret if we give in so easily now.
NCR is putting far to much energy into making sure we vote no. WHY?!
I hope the 125 zone votes yes. We need it bad.
Anonymous said...
This is what the Jews do they rape our pocket books
Vote union and take back white America and push the Jews out of power.
The fight must start here
July 16, 2008 4:43 PM
IS THIS FROM JACKSON LEWIS, I KNOW OF NO PRO-UNION CE WHO WOULD SAY THIS.
***FOR ANY PEOPLE WHO ARE CONFUSED ABOUT VOTING YES FOR UNION.***
1. SINCE WE FILED WITH THE NLRB, NCR CAN'T CUT PAY, DEMOTE ANY OF US, FIRE ANYONE FOR UNION INVOLEMENT. OUTSOURCE US. NCR IS FROZEN WITH ANY PLANS THEY HAD FOR US. HAVE ANY OF YOU NOTICES HOW THEY HAVE TREATED US DIFFERANT SINCE WE FILED?
2. IF WE VOTE YES FOR A UNION WE ARE STILL PROTECTED FROM NCR DOING ANY OF THE ABOVE.
3. IF WE VOTE NO, NCR CAN CUT PAY, OUTSOURCES US, FIRE US FOR ANY REASON. THE PROTECTION STOPS.
4. IF WE VOTE FOR A UNION, WE ARE PROTECTED FROM ABOVE 1. WE WILL THEN START TO WORK ON GETTING A CONTRACT WITH NCR. WE WILL NOT PAY UNION DUES TILL WE SIGN CONTRACT. IF IT TAKES 1, 2, YEARS FOR NCR TO SIGN CONTRACT WE ARE STILL "PROTECTED FROM NCR DOING ANY OF THE ABOVE" THEY CAN'T CUT PAY, BENIFITS, ECT. "WE PAY NO DUES TILL WE SIGN CONTRACT".
5. WE CAN'T STRIKE TILL THE FIRST CONTRACT RUNS OUT. THAT MEANS NCR HAS TO SIGN THE FIRST CONTRACT, BEFORE ANY CHANCE OF A STRIKE. NEW YORK HAS NEVER HAD A STRIKE.
***WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO LOSE BY VOTING FOR THE UNION?***
***UNION REPS WILL BE MADE UP OF CE'S FROM 125, WHO WILL TRY TO HAMMER OUT A CONTRACT***
***IF ONLY FOR PROTECTION FROM CUTS, OUTSOURCING, WORKING TO MUCH, MANAGER WHO DON'T LIKE YOU, IT IS A GOOD DEAL***
***** IF ANYONE IS PRESSURING YOU TO VOTE NO, CALL STEVE SMITH (978-302-3690) AND THE IBEW LAWYERS WILL PROTECT YOU*****
The guy posting the racist crap is a company plant. We are tracing the source of his posting. Anonymous is not really Anonymous if you have the know-how.
BALLOTS HAVE TO BE IN THE NLRB OFFICE BY 1700 (5 PM) AUGUST 8. TO BE COUNTED.
REMEMBER SEND IN YOUR BALLOTS THE SAME DAY YOU GET THEM.
READ INSTRUCTIONS CAREFUL FOR VOTING.
SIGN YELLOW ENVELOPE.
BALLOTS WILL BE SENT OUT JULY 25
IF YOU DON'T GET A BALLOT BY AUGUST 1ST CALL THE NLRB OFFICE AT
617-565-6705
VOTES WILL BE COUNTED AUGUST 11 AT 10 AM AT THE NLRB OFFICE IN BOSTON
I am not a company plant just proud white nation member who happens to work for ncr
And we do not threaten that is pointless now a days we just need to separate ourselves
From the beginning and speaking for myself: My reasons for filing this case have always been about making this a better place to work for everyone.
When the NCR culture defines a "Moment of Truth" to mean an employee working off the clock for no pay on his/her day off, I won't remain silent.
I feel that our employers expectation to provide free labor just keeps getting worse. I've heard from long time employees and how things are so different now. How management doesn't just hint or pressure you to do work on your own time, they outright expect it.
I respect and admire the men and women who have worked as CE's for so many years. From my very first day, I have been inspired by the loyalty, dedication, skill and endurance that the CE3's I have had the pleasure to work with have shown.
From them, I developed and learned to have pride in my work.
It's that pride that won't allow me to give MY WORK away for free. I think a CE's work has value and they should be paid for the work they do. Not just some of it, but ALL OF IT.
If anyone else thinks they should be paid for all of the work they have done but haven't always been so in the past, here's your opportunity. Raise your voice and speak up now. Tell your story. I think you will find you're not alone.
WHO CAN JOIN THIS LAWSUIT?
If you worked at NCR Corporation in any location as an hourly paid customer engineer you may be eligible to join this lawsuit.
If you have other questions or would like additional information, please contact George Hanson, Lee Anderson, Rick Paul, or Carla Broadnax at 1-866-668-9241.
This page contains a link if you want to read the complaint that was filed and also get information about joining the suit.
http://www.stuevesiegel.com/CM/CurrentCases/NCR-Corporation-Customer-Engineers.asp
Has the company threatend you or anybody who joined the law suit?
Is there any protection from company retaliation?
I want to get on it after I find another job. I have not been looking that hard because I'll stay if the union gets voted in.
Anonymous said...
I am not a company plant just proud white nation member who happens to work for ncr
And we do not threaten that is pointless now a days we just need to separate ourselves.
WELL THEN YOU ARE IN TNHE WRONG BUSINESS. WE RUN INTO ALL SHAPES, SIZES, COLORS, AND CREEDS ON THIS JOB!
THAT SEPARTIST ATTITUDE WILL GET YOU IN TROUBLE OR WORSE..KEEP IT TO YOURSELF OR STAY AWAY!!!
YOURE A RACIST ASSHOLE!
Q Has the company threatend you or anybody who joined the law suit?
Is there any protection from company retaliation?
I want to get on it after I find another job. I have not been looking that hard because I'll stay if the union gets voted in.
July 17, 2008 9:11 AM
A My manager & co-workers know I'm for the Union, I'm involved in the CLass Action Suite and have filed with the EEOC for age discrimination as every CE3 I know and myself who were demoted to a CE2 are over 40. So don't be a wimp and join the Class Action Suite now!
"Nuti one step ahead. This guy is smart."
What is so smart about the destruction of NCR? He's just a lying backstabbing cocksucker!
July 15, 2008 7:11 PM
Yes, I agree “lying backstabbing”.
He has screwed the whole company and came out the other side smelling like a rose. It takes a heartless person to do that but who else could have done it. He did just what he needed to do to have the majority of the people on his side at the right times.
The reason the younger CEs are not sending in their cards is because they have not seen the bad side of NCR yet. They where hired and given raises at the same time NCR cut the older CEs pay. Now there are less older Ces than younger Ces so the younger ones will keep you from making a difference. Just like the last time they cut a few of the older Ces pay where was the outrage? You where then in the majority and did nothing because you where not impacted. That was a test. The same thing repeats over and over since he started just with a different groups of people.
People no longer stand up for one another and he capitalized on that.
"So don't be a wimp and join the Class Action Suite now!"
Is there an age discrimination suit? I want to join, who do I contact?
Hi Guys,
Just stumbled across your blog. Makes very interesting reading.
I also just spoke to Steve Smith on the phone to get the lowdown.
I am a CE in the U.K, and it appears that our darling company is going to start that shit here.
We fortunately have a union, but membership was up until recently less than 50%. The company screwed us on a pay increase and it backfired on them, membership is growing at a rapid rate daily. Good luck to you guys, keep the faith, and screw the company for every $ that you can.
the guarantees you expect do not exist, not in any company and not in any unionnnnn. don't believe it? ask the auto workers in detroit. ask the mine workers in kentucky. you're being fed b.s. from both sides, and that is the only guarantee you'll have.
I CAN'T STAND MR. "UNIONNNNN" GUY THATS GOT TO THE NUT JOB. WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK?
DID EVERYONE IN THE COUNTRY GET THE NEW NCR ANTI-UNION EMAIL?
CHEADLES IS ALREADY SHOWING BAD FAITH IN HIS STANDS ON A CONTRACT. HE IS DIGGING A HOLE FOR HIMSELF. NLRB WILL NOT TAKE TO KINDLY TO HIS BAD FAITH STAND WHEN WE SHOW THEM THE PROOF.
GO IBEW,,, FILE TODAY AND GET PROTECTION FROM CHEADLES MASTER PLAN.
THEY TALK ABOUT STANDING TOGETHER. THAT IS WHAT WE WILL DO. STAND TOGETHER AS ONE WITH THE INTEREST OF THE WORKING MAN AND WOMEN OUR GOAL.
PEOPLE ARE FEED UP WITH THESE CEO WHO TAKE AND TAKE AND TAKE.
NEW ENGLAND FIRED THE FIRST SHOT. NOW IT IS TIME FOR THE REST OF THE COUNTRY TO GET ONBOARD.
VOTE YES
In response to:
Has the company threatend you or anybody who joined the law suit?
Is there any protection from company retaliation?
I want to get on it after I find another job. I have not been looking that hard because I'll stay if the union gets voted in.
Well,
I don't know of anyone having been threatened and as of today, I don't feel I have been retaliated against. I know that retaliation is illegal and against the law.
As a member of the suit, I take comfort in knowing that someone's got my back. Besides,most large companies know better than to risk an additional suit for that. Also, I think the more CE's involved, the less chance of it happening.
Please don't wait until you find another job before speaking up. The entire reason for going through all this is to get fix unfair policies and get paid for the work we do. Don't you want to be around to benefit from those changes. In comparision,it wouldn't do much good to join the union after you quit right?
Do you know about the changes that happened at Walmart? The employees can't work through breaks and lunches anymore because the system automatically signs them out. I think if Walmart can change, then so can we.
If you believe one person can't make a difference, I'm am going to prove you wrong because I choose to believe in me.
but like the song says:
I'm a MOVEMENT by myself
But A Force when we're together.
TOGETHER WE CAN BE A FORCE NCR WILL HAVE TO RECKON WITH!!
"When the Injustice Outweighs the Fear
One of the warning signs that there is need for a change at the place you work is when you are afraid to speak to a co-worker about the need for change. All working people live with a certain level of fear for their continued employment. We have people who depend on us. They need us to put a roof over their heads, food on the table, and provide medical care among other things. Most of us live week to week and some maybe month to month but that is the extent of our” safety net”. Should the company we work for and more importantly the company whose economic well being depends on our labor take advantage of our fears and exploit us? The company doesn’t issue a statement that you cannot speak of change. They don’t say that there will consequences for your speaking out. Then why are most people afraid to say publicly that they want change? We all know the answer to that question. What the company says and what the company will do are two very different things. Right now they have the power and they will use it. They used that power recently to steal money from the dedicated employees of NCR who are responsible for “greater than expected earnings” the company so proudly announced. I have not spoken to one CE who expects to receive the same compensation as Mr. Nuti receives but reasonably expects to be fairly compensated for their contributions to the company’s fortunes. To receive a pay cut based on some market survey rather than your contributions is as I said before; stealing.
The company has the power now because the workers stand alone against the money, the managers, and the lawyers of NCR. If we stand together and demand fairness then there is not enough money, or managers, or company lawyers to deny what is rightfully ours. The reason we can’t be defeated is simple. We are NCR! Managers direct the workers, and process the paperwork. We the workers the deliver service, we’re the reason that the company not only survives but thrives. We not Mr. Nuti and his staff of mangers are NCR! Let’s stand together and demand what is rightfully ours.
For you who have not been affected yet by the company pay cuts (rebanding is a corporate word for theft) and may have even gotten a modest raise; take a look at the CE’s who were cut. They are the senior people who dedicated themselves to making NCR a company with a reputation for excellent service. They did a damn good job of it and what was their reward… a pay cut. When you become the senior people what do you think they will do to you?
For those who have received the pay cut and are afraid to stand up ask yourself is this the end of the cuts or a new management philosophy of corporate greed. How far do they have to cut before the job won’t pay the bills?
This is a job worth standing up for. This is not a company having economic difficulties. They have the money to treat us decently as evidenced by the recently announced “greater than expected earnings”. It is a job we take pride in. It is a job we will have to fight for to keep it that way. We have the right to stand together and demand fairness. We have the right to speak with our co-workers about bringing about change. It is our choice whether or not to exercise that right. Let’s stand together we owe to our families..we owe to ourselves."
VOTE YES
Yeah, but think about the companies that are having economic difficulties and why that is. Does GM come to mind? Let's ask the 30,000 GM workers who are getting laid off.
GM's problem?
Does Global Warming come to mind?
It didn't for them either.
Instead of developing hybrids and low Co2 producing vehicles they chose to fight the laws requiring lower vehicle emissions and kept building SUV's.
Obviously, a bad decision.
But,Just in my opinion
EIGHT YEARS AGO WHEN NCR HAD ITS BRAINLESS "EARLY OUT" AND WE LOST 3/4 OF OUR WORKFORCE LOCALLY MY FATHER, A RETIRED LIPTON TEA VICE PRESIDENT SAID "NCR IS FU(%ING YOU, YOU NEED A UNION". BEING IN UPPER MANAGMENT HE WAS NEVER "PRO UNION" BUT HE KNOWS WHEN A COMPANY IS SCREWING ITS EMPLOYEE'S. I ENDED UP WORKING OVER 800 HOURS OF OT IN 2001 AS A RESULT OF THE "EARLY OUT", WAY TOO MUCH. HE ALSO SAID BY TIME I WAS IN MY 50'S THEY WOULD BE FORCING ME OUT. WELL DAD WAS RIGHT AND WE STILL NEED A UNION. LET'S UNITE, VOTE YES, DON'T BE A WIMP!!!
EIGHT YEARS AGO WHEN NCR HAD ITS BRAINLESS "EARLY OUT" AND WE LOST 3/4 OF OUR WORKFORCE LOCALLY MY FATHER, A RETIRED LIPTON TEA VICE PRESIDENT SAID "NCR IS FU(%ING YOU, YOU NEED A UNION". BEING IN UPPER MANAGMENT HE WAS NEVER "PRO UNION" BUT HE KNOWS WHEN A COMPANY IS SCREWING ITS EMPLOYEE'S. I ENDED UP WORKING OVER 800 HOURS OF OT IN 2001 AS A RESULT OF THE "EARLY OUT", WAY TOO MUCH. HE ALSO SAID BY TIME I WAS IN MY 50'S THEY WOULD BE FORCING ME OUT. WELL DAD WAS RIGHT AND WE STILL NEED A UNION. LET'S UNITE, VOTE YES, DON'T BE A WIMP!!!
Could someone please put NCR's address and zip code on here, along with a general phone number. Also, what was the date they froze our pensions. Need info for the EEOC age discrimination charge I am filing
I Googled "NCR WORLD HEADQUARTERS" and came back with
NCR CORPORATION
1700 South Patterson Blvd
Dayton, Ohio 45479
800-225-5627 or 937-445-1936
One thing that I noticed in the last one was that NCR can hire others to take our place and we can't get our jobs back if we strike? Is that true? I didn't think a company could do that...
***FIRST OFF, WE CAN'T STRIKE TILL WE SIGN A CONTRACT. THEN, AND ONLY THEN WILL A STRIKE BECOME POSSIBLE. AND WE WILL BE ASKING FOR 3 YEAR MIN CONTRACT.
THE UNION IN NEW YORK BEEN AROUND 40 YEARS AND HAS NEVER HAD A STRIKE.
JUST ANOTHER LIE FROM JACKSON LEWIS (UNION BUSTING LAW FIRM), NCR'S WAY OF TREAT US WITH RESPEST.
THE ONLY WAY TO TEACH NUTI, CHEADLE A LESSON, IS TO VOTE IN UNION.
MAYBE THEY BELOVED SHAREHOLDERS WILL GET THOSE TWO THE BOOT.
IF YOU FILE TO GO UNION IN YOUR AREA, YOU WILL BE PROTECTED FROM THERE STRONG ARM TATICS.
IF YOU THINK THING ARE GOING TO GET BETTER WITHOUT UNION, I GOT A BRIDGE TO SELL YOU IN NEW YORK.
VOTE UNION VOTE YES
I met an electrician today while working at a Home Depot. Asked him if he was a Union Electician and he replied yes, IBEW! He also mentioned he had been with the IBEW for 22 years and that it was well worth it, benifits, pay, etc. I told him about our organizing effort and what NCR has done, he wish's us good luck! GO UNION!!!
How many of you read the Anti-union web Link? It took me less then 3 seconds to find a Lie on that page. Do they not know what it means to work in a right to work state? I don't have to pay dues to keep my job and I don't have to join but I choose to join because I see it as the only way to protect myself and fix some of the stupidity upper management does.
I can't read anymore of that Weblink because I don't like being lied to. "pay and obey" Whatever!!!
Can you say "right to work" state? This means I have a choice and I say stop your disinformation campaign. Your no good at it.
Go Union....
Every Ce in The Northeast will be graced with Cheadle's presenece next week. Ask him howmany time Australia striked while he was there. Ask him if New York has ever went on strike. Think of questios for this asshole and ask him. We NOW have the ear Of NCR don't let it go till it is full we need this guy to do some work for a change . I want thisguy to get for a day off whenwe are done with him.
Since the first of the year NCR has spent so much money explaining there shitty desicions and why to note no, we could have CE3's fora year or so.
Do these guys know how we have to live.
holy crap they have dismounted from there high horse and are among us commoners.
It is like Cinderella Only in reverse.
Well I seen the latest email from cheatle saying that the judge has ruled in NCRs favor against the union in N.Y. This is not good!!! I wonder how much they paid the judge to rule this way. You cant mess with power and money.
This proves how we need UNION. CE1 got a 5% raise every year for 3 years. New pay zone being set up for New York city, one week for every year, people with 40 years will get 40 weeks not 26 weeks max.
THIS SHOULD NOT STOP US FROM VOTING YES.
REMEMBER NEW YORK CHOOSE TO HAVE SOMEONE ELSE DECIDE THERE FATE. LOOK WHAT HAPPEN.
IF THERE CHOOSE TO WALK, NCR WOULD HAVE SETTLED. NCR CUSTOMERS WOULD HAVE DEMAND A STOP TO THE MESS A WALK OUT WOULD HAVE CAUSED.
VOTE YES FOR UNION
NCR PAYED OFF THE ARBITRATOR, WE STILL NEED A UNION!
THE FOLLOWING MESSAGE IS SENT ON BEHALF OF CHRIS CHEADLE, VICE PRESIDENT, AMERICAS CUSTOMER SERVICES
Distribution:
All US Field Service Delivery Personnel
Americas CS Leadership Team
Copy
NCR Leadership Team
WCS LT
Americas Sales LT
Subject: Arbitration Decision reached in NCR / Teamsters Union Negotiations
As communicated earlier this month, NCR and the Teamsters Union Local 111 (which represents NCR Customer Engineers in the New York City and northern NJ area) agreed to submit their positions to a neutral, third-party labor arbitrator from the New York metropolitan area for final resolution.
The arbitrator has just issued his decision on the issues that remained open between NCR and the Teamsters. This decision is contractually binding on both parties. Here is a summary:
The arbitrator agreed with NCR's business case and accepted the Company's position regarding its need to reband CE3's in the United States. Effective August 1, 2008, the CE3's in the New York metro area will be rebanded to the top of the CE2 pay scale.
While rebanding is always a difficult decision, the arbitrator understood and accepted the Company's business reasons and concluded that the New York area CE3's should be rebanded, as has already occurred with all other CE3's across the United States. Like the other rebanded CE3's, the base salaries of the rebanded New York CE3s will be kept whole for 18 months through a series of quarterly payments.
Related Note: NCR's Compensation & Benefits team has recommended, and Company management has approved, the creation of a new Geographic Zone 3 and a new compensation range for this zone. The Compensation & Benefits team regularly analyzes NCR's compensation and benefits programs and compares them with regional and national statistics. The most recent reviews suggested the need for a new zone to address compensation issues in the highest cost-of-living areas of the United States. The areas in Geographic Zone 3 will include Honolulu, Hawaii; the San Francisco Bay area, Los Angeles, San Diego and the metropolitan New York City area (includes employees living within 25 miles of NYC, Jericho, and White Plains).
As a result, effective July 1, 2009, the wage scale for CE2s in Geographic Zone 3 will be increased. This means that next July, CE3's in this geographic zone who were rebanded in 2008 and experienced reductions in compensation as a result, will move into the revised CE2 scale for Geographic Zone 3. CE3's who were rebanded will have their base adjusted to $51,500 on July 1, 2009 and will receive an additional three percent on July 1, 2010.
The arbitrator accepted NCR's and the Teamsters' agreement to increase salaries for CE1s in the New York metropolitan area by five percent (5%) for each year of the new, three-year agreement. These increases were necessary because the CE1's in New York had been compensated at a lower pay scale than CE1's in other parts of the United States. These additional increases will help to move these CE1's into the appropriate salary range.
The arbitrator directed the parties to accept NCR's proposal to enhance the severance benefit for the CE3's who will experience more than a 25% wage reduction as a result of the rebanding. The CE3's in the New York metro area have an unusually high degree of service with NCR. In fact, a significant number have 30-35-40 or more years of service. The Company recognized this and during negotiations offered to remove the 26-week cap for severance payments (i.e., one week of severance for every year of service up to 26 years) for employees electing to leave the Company.
I would like to thank everyone who was involved in these negotiations for their efforts to reach a swift conclusion. I particularly want to thank members of the Teamsters' negotiating committee, as well as all of our CEs in the New York metro area who agreed to submit these final issues to the arbitrator for resolution. With this decision in hand, our New York team can now move forward along with the rest of the U.S. as we focus our time and attention on job #1 – serving our Customers.
Sincerely,
Chris Cheadle
TIME FOR A WORK SLOWDOWN, FUCK NCR
nutti my ass hurts.......
Im a NCR Teamster..Even though the Arbitration did not go fully in our favor I will always stand behind my UNION. If not for the Union we would have suffered this fate 3 years ago when the majority of the NON UNION CE3 Population was rebanded without a bridge. Our Union Prevailed and not only protected our wages but also negotiated raises for us.
The Union protected us then and once again has made NCR reconsider its policy about rebanding to create a Geographic Zone 3. This would not have ever been created unless there was a UNION to force the company to take a second look at their basterdized policys.
The money I have paid in dues have rewarded me ten fold in salary protection. This company is not a place to work without a UNION.
Our contract provides us much protection from NCR. When you are Union you cannot be disciplined or terminated without a JUST CAUSE. In a NON UNION workplace you can be disciplined and or fired for any reason.
The UNION has many great benefits that we have fought long and hard for.
Increased A/V Money
Consecutive Days Off
12 Hour Rule
Personal use of Company Car.
Etc.
If the rest of NCR's CE's joins a UNION together we can make this a better place to work.
As for you CE's who will be getting the Geographic Zone Increase you can thank the 200 Teamsters in NY who put it all on the line on July 1. If 200 can achieve that imagine what we can do if we are United and Organized.
Lets take this Company and our Country back from the GREEDY Men and Women who have it in their control.Before the Middle Class is all but a memory.
Fighting Corporate Greed is a WAR that will never end. The battle may have gone their way today but the future can be ours if we choose. VOTE UNION!!!
Thank you,
Still Proud Teamster
My TM could probably be fired but he said to vote yes
I would like to Welcome all the new CE2's in NY. The union let you down, NCR not the union decided on making a geographical zone3 . I have a hard time living in the middle of nowhere on my new CE2 pay, i couldn't imagine living in NYC
****Arbitration Decision****
Let see the Arbitration Decision. let see what he ready had to say and let see what NCR had to say about us CE'S.
could someone please tell me what health benefits the teamsters receive from ncr, how much is employee paid, and co-pays. thanks!
Just like the old joke about johnny. A RAT A BIG FUCKING RAT .
NCR did not create a Geographic Zone 3 out of the kindness of their hearts...The Arbitrator concluded that the NY CE-3's would recieve an additional 5000k on July 1 2009 bringing them to $51,500 before the end of the bridge.
It is all in the OTHER Cheat-All letter that was sent out to the NY CE's...2 letters with 2 different messages..Once again MORE Cheat-All Double talk..
Dont be fooled by NCR's sudden act of generosity to buy off your VOTE..NCR thinks that CE's cant see through this act. If this election fails you can rest assured the Axe and Whip will return..
Think about the Long Term even if you only plan to stay here for a few years or until the bridge runs out..Situations Change and you might find yourself needing this job more than ever..
VOTE UNION..SUPPORT THE UNION..FIGHT THEM EVERY STEP OF THE WAY..
Thank You
Still Proud Teamster
Do not be fooled by this creation of new zone 3. Why NCR did not come out this idea before. The truth is the arbitrator DEMANDs NCR to have higher pay to teamsters. NCR does not want us to have the impression that NCR IS FORCED to raise the pay. So, they just comes out this NEW ZONE 3 thing and tries to show its GOOD WILL.
So far all the information comes out from the arbitratior is from NCR. I was told there are 20 pages about the decision of aribitrator. NCR just shows the couple issues are in their favor. And masking the higher pay demanded by aribitrator with this NEW ZONE 3 pay scheme. NCR will not pay any penny more if it is not forced to do so.
We are screwed but not in a big time. We need read the whole decision of arbitrator to count the whole score. The lesson to every NCR CE here is GO UNION. There is no other way. IF we can stick togather and fight togather
, we will be the winner.
GO UNION.
guy from NY/NJ
You guys should have walked. NCR didn't blink, but I am afraid you did.
***Effective August 1, 2008, the CE3's in the New York metro area will be rebanded to the top of the CE2 pay scale.***
NCR increased CE2 TOP PAY TO 51,000 AFTER WE GOT REBAND. KNEWING WE WOULD NEVER GET TO THAT POINT. NEW YORK IF YOU ARE TO GET TOP OF THE CE2 PAY SCALE, IT SHOULD BE 51,000 NOT 45,000. CHECK THIS OUT..
VOTE YES
To the Metro New York CE Team -
As you know, the arbitrator has issued his decision and concluded that the Metro New York CE3’s will be rebanded to the top of the CE2 scale. He also directed the Company to increase the base for those rebanded employees by approximately $5,000 on July 1, 2009 and by an additional $1,700 on July 1, 2010. In addition, he accepted the Company’s proposal to enhance the severance benefits for CE3’s who experience more than a 25% wage reduction by removing the 26-week severance cap. Any employee whose compensation is being reduced by 25% or more as a result of the rebanding must advise the Company (Francene Anderson) of their decision by August 1, 2008.
I want to thank everyone from the New York Metro area. I know this has been a difficult and challenging time for everyone, and I want to express my sincere appreciation for your continued professionalism throughout the negotiating process.
Our agreement to use the arbitration process to resolve the remaining issues is another example of our mutual desire to do what is best for our Customers, and in the long run, for all NCR employees. Thank you again.
Sincerely,
Chris Cheadle
HEY CHRIS.
YOU SHOULDN'T BE THANKING US, WE SHOULD BE THANKING YOU, YOU FUCKING AUSSIE S,O.B!!!
THANK YOU, FOR US NOT BEING ABLE TO PAY THE MORTGAGE, PRIVATE SCHOOL FOR THE KIDS, UTILILIES AND FOOD ON THE THE TABLE!
I GUESS THAT YOUR FRIGEN PAY YOU MAKE WAS NOT ENOUGH, SO YOU HAD TO STEAL FROM THE REST OF US. I HOPE YOU CAN SLEEP TONIGHT. I HOPE YOU GET COCK CANCER , YOU FUCKIN' SWEAT FROM MY BALLS, COCK SUCKING CROCODILE LOVING SCUMBAG.
The teamster may not get what they hope for but the deal is not that bad according to the email from Mr. Cheadle. Before we can see the real decision of arbitrator, just let's do some math from his email.
In his email he said the arbitrator demands NCR
1. keeps the 18 monthes bridge pay NCR promises.
It means we will keep the current pay level for 18 monthes till July 1. 2009.
2. There SHOULD be a $5000 increase from NCR proposed $48500 by July 1.2009 to June 30. 2010.
it means we will get pay of $53500 for 1 year from July 1. 2009.
3. There SHOULD be at lease ANOTHER $1700 increase after July 1. 2010.
It means we should get pay of $55200 from July 1. 2010 to June 30. 2011.
It does hurt but we are not CUT to the bone. The aribitraor also makes a lot of good deals to the teamsters who suffer great cut of pay.Those teamster are actually close to their retirement. So, the impact to them will be reduced to minimum or even a good deal for them to retire now. We will post the detail here once we know for sure. In all, I think what we get should enought to convince the unbeliever of UNION to believe in UNION.
GO UNIOM
guy from NY/NJ
and don't forget LA, San Francisco and a few others will also benifit from the new Zone 3 pay scale.
Did the NY CE's vote to use the arbitrator? Now that it's over do you (NY CE's) wish you would have gone out on strike instead?
1. keeps the 18 monthes bridge pay NCR promises.
It means we will keep the current pay level for 18 monthes till July 1. 2009.
18 MONTHS FROM 1 AUG 2008 IS JAN 2010????????
NEW YORK CHECK THE NUMBERS.
I am a CE1 who worked for FLT for two years and was brought over to NCR 7 months ago. I work in the Philadelphia area. My pay is $31,200. All of this is of no benefit to me . I am stuck with 2% raises if I am lucky. By the way I have 30 tears experience in other companies as a Ce. There are very few jobs out there, so I am stuck. I will make over $50,000 with the brutal overtime we are working and the on call money, but I thought my life would be a lot easier at 59 years. $51,000 regular pay would look great to me right now. It all depends on where you are looking from. The sick part is that I heard they are hiring new guys to do the same job at $2 more an hour than some of us make.
I guess NCR is feeling pretty good just about now. So now we have a bunch of even more unhappy people working here that feel as if they have been screwed over. So where do we go from here? As I see it, demoralized workers do less work, talk bad about the company to customers, develope a very bad attitude that can't help but result in poor productivity. NCR has won a victory that will result in making it a second or third class service company. The good people will leave for greener pastures leaving only the bottom of the barrel people in NCR's service force. If you think things are bad now, hang around awhile.
yes-the new pay scale for ny is better than the rest of the country. when our midpoint goes up next year by 4k i will be at 105% of that midpoint..so what kind of raise do you think i will get? very little..the raises will go to the guys lower on the midpoint-no matter how well i do or how they do. and also for the ny guys-yes you will get the bridge pay; but don't forget you will lose a bunch if you get much overtime. i am losing approx. $10/hr on overtime. the bridge pay doesn't include that. it's gonna be a rough road ahead..
Only time will tell what the true cost or should i say cost savings of all this will be to NCR and it's customers. Having a customer facing work force that is as unhappy and demoralized as we are is sure to have a negative effect. My TM has been trying for months to hire someone to fill the opening left when two CE3's quit because of the rebanding. They turn the job down when they find out what the pay is and how much on call and overtime there is. I plan to work til the bridge pay runs out and then retire with as much dignity as possible (37 years with NCR). My young coworker with 3 years in has his resume posted everywhere. He knows this is not a long term career. He wants a job that pays more than his wife makes and lets him spend more time with his family. I just hope he lasts atleast a day longer than me, I'm too old and tired to train another. Oh,and for the record if our area does go to a union vote I still will vote YES.
NYC TEAMSTERS HAD NCR BY THE BALLS BETWEEN JP MORGON AND CHASE ACCOUNTS. THOSE RTSS WERE JUST A BUNCH OF KISS ASSES WHO COULDN'T FIX SHIT. THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN PISSING CUSTOMERS OFF LEFT AND RIGHT.
WHO MADE THE DECISION TO HAVE AN ABORTRATOR DECIDE YOUR FATE? DID YOU GUYS VOTE ON THAT?
THE RICH AND POWERFUL WILL ALWAYS STICK TOGETHER. THE AMERICAN WORKER BETTER START FIGHTING BACK. THESE ELETIST SCUM BAGS ARE OUT TO DESTROY THE MIDDLE CLASS.
WE CAN USE THIS AS A LESSON FROM NOW ON PUSHING FOWARD WITH THE UNION MOVEMENT. STRIKE IF WE HAVE TO AND BE ANGRY, MEAN, TOUGH BASTARDS. THAT'S THE ONLY THING THESE GREEDY RICH ASSHOLES UNDERSTAND.
wHY WONT THE TEAMSTERS POST THERE BENIFIT INFO IT MAY BE PART OF THE DEAL BEAKER WITH THE NE AREA CE'S
PLEASE LIST
HOW MUCH U PAY EVERY PAY PERIOD
WHAT CVERAGE IE BLUECROSS BLUESHEILD
WHAT COPAYS ARE
ECT
I HAVE A FAMILY I AM SUPPORTING AND PAY $249.00/PAYPERIOD WITHUT DENTAL AND EYEGLASS
SO TOTAL I AM AROUND 300
PLEASE AND THANK YOU
AFTER TAKING OUR RAISES AWAY..THERE IS NOTHING LEFT TO PERFORM FOR..AT THIS POINT HARD WORK WILL GET YOU TIRED AND THATS IT.
i am losing approx. $10/hr on overtime. the bridge pay doesn't include that. it's gonna be a rough road ahead.
The bridge bonus should be included in overtime payment, according to the Fed Labor standards. Non discretionary bonus's are to be added to ones pay, and the pay recalculated with the bonus included. Therefore,you should be recieving the same rate of overtime pay as you did before the paycuts. I am waiting until the bridge payments are over before I file a complaint with the Feds. And I have it in writing that this bridge payment is indeed a nondiscretionary bonus. I have already spoken to an attorney about it.
Well can anyone post benny info please?????
The teamsters really did a great job for you guys in NY....nice pay cut you fucken assholes!
AFTER THINK ABOUT WHAT HAPPEN TO NEW YORK IT IS MORE IMPORTANT TO GET THE UNION IN. IF NOT, NCR WILL CUT OUR PAY TO HELP PAY FOR THE EXTRA MONEY NEW YORK GOT. FOR THE NEW GUYS, LOOK AT WHAT THE CE1 GOT, AND WE WILL ASK FOR SAME, 5% A YEAR FOR 3 YEARS. NEW CE2 WE WILL PUSH FOR BETTER PAY TO GET YOU CLOSER TO MID POINT. FOR OLDER CE2 WE ARE LOOKING FOR PROTECTION FROM PAY CUTS. LET KEEP ARE EYE ON THE BALL.
IF YOU READ BOTH EMAIL FROM cHEADLE, HE TELLS TWO DIFFERANT STORIES. ONE TO NEW YORK, AND ANOTHER TO THE REST OF US.
VOTE YES FOR UNION
THANK YOU
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every area has different health benefits, some can get an HMO some can't, some have other plans and the rest are stuck with Cigna. it all depends on where you live. the CE's who work in the group south of me can get an HMO but when i chose my benefits i had no choice but to choose Cigna since no other ones were offered in my area
and the price of your benefits are all different depending on what you can get in your area
SO NUTI'S JEWISH AND FROM LONG ISLAND. IF HE WERE A FEMALE WE'D CALL HIM A "JAP" WHICH MEANS "JEWISH AMERICAN PRINCESS", HOWEVER HE'S A MALE SO HE MUST BE A "JEWISH AMERICAN PRICK"!!!
did the teamsters nego. any better rates than the rest of us get???
Has any union ever, taken pay cut when a company had a record year? I never heard of it.
Can you guys just say we were mislead into letting an arbitrator decide the contract? If so can all deals be off and just walk out on strike?
Everybodys happy except for the guys who actually do the service work. Lets cut the pay of all the sales and office people. How about parts, they could take a hit too. I say lets have a 25% cut across the whole company. Management included. Like that will happen. I am only working at 50% from now on. You get what you pay for.
What's my incentive? I busted my ass for years, got good raises, then took a 24% pay cut. I will NEVER work hard for ncr again!!!!!
Did the NY CE's have any say in allowing an arbitrator to decide your fate?
so in reading posts the teamsters did not get any better pries on the bennyies did they my main reson for voting for ibew is better costing bennies.
why would i vote yes if there no better bennies for me
the teamsters have prven nothing any better
The Teamsters have far better working conditions and benefits than non union employee's.
why dont they post them then???? i am under the impression they have the same as i do: shitty bennies
Some of you guys still dont get it...
If a Majority of this company was Union we could have had them by the balls..
Instead most of you come here and bitch and whine then fly to NY for strike duty..Get your head out of your ass...
The Middle Class is under attack and NCR is leading the charge..Soon there will be no safe place to turn to for a decent living..The time is now for working men and women to support Labor Unions..The Corporations are spending Billions of Dollars to Lobby our politicians to turn this place into a 3rd world country.The Avg Citizen cannot compete against that without the aid of a Union.
IF THE WORKERS ARE UNITED WE WILL NEVER BE DIVIDED!!
Thank you,
Still Proud Teamster
You blew it!
can't believe you actually thought you would beat the company. the company must win in order to survive and continue to give you a way to make a living. now you know, the unionnnnn isn't your savior, never was, never will be. you should be on your knees tonight thanking NCR for your job. and tomorrow get on your knees and take that unionnnnn bumper sticker off your car.
"can't believe you actually thought you would beat the company. the company must win in order to survive and continue to give you a way to make a living. now you know, the unionnnnn isn't your savior, never was, never will be. you should be on your knees tonight thanking NCR for your job. and tomorrow get on your knees and take that unionnnnn bumper sticker off your car."
YOUR A LITTLE MAN WHO HIDES BEHIND ANONYMOUS. MANY DO BECAUSE OF FEAR OF LOSING JOB. BUT YOU SHOULD POST YOUR NAME AND REGION. COMPANY MAY GIVE YOU A JOB IN MANAGERMENT. YOU ARE ONE OF ITS BIGGEST ASS KISSER. ALSO I WORK FOR THE MONEY I MAKE. IF IT IS NOT WITH NCR, IT WILL BE WITH SOMEONE ELSE, SO NCR IS LUCKY TO HAVE ME!!!!
It ain't over really. The fight will continue.
ny teamster contract details
CE-3'S are all demoted to CE-2's with a cut in pay to $45,800.00 with Bridge Pay for 18 months, same as us. However next July 09 there pay is increased to $51,500 and the Bridge Pay will continue until January 2010. Also July 09 they will become a Geographic Zone 3 which should add about an additional 10% to there pay. On January 2010 they get another 3% raise and July 2010 another 3% raise.
So once the Bridge Pay runs out they should be making $58,350.00 and by July 2010 they'll be making $60,100.00
These totals include the assumed 10% increase for Geographic Zone 3.
All current CE-2's will be receiving a 3% across the board raise this year and the next 2 after. CE-1's will be receiving a 5% raise this
year and the following 2 after.
Any CE's who elect to retire will get Full Medical Coverage for up to 40 weeks if they've worked 40 years or more, (1 week/year worked)
And up to 40 weeks of severance pay, (1 week/year worked) The rest of us get a maximum of 26 for both medical & severance pay.
New England Metro you deserve Geographic Zone 3 pay.Do not take this lying down.It is time for all CE's to stand up to this Company and protect their homes,familys and co-workers.
And to the poster above who said I should be on my KNEES thanking NCR rest assured the only time I will be on my knees for NCR is when I say my prayers that every one of you sick greedy bastards gets your day in Hell!
You people have no hearts.You come on here and rejoice in others suffering.Soon your Sadistic Masters will turn on you too.There is not enough money in NCR to satisfy their Greed!
VOTE UNION!
Thank you,
Still Proud Teamster
An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.
-Sir Winston Churchill
Fitting since the crocodile is an Aussie named Cheadle.
Even though NY took some pay cuts, they are far less than the rest of the CE3's took, and with their bridges and new areas, they came out pretty well. The CE2's will be given 3% raises and the CE1's are getting 5% raises for the next 3 years. Do you think NCR would have given those raises without the union? They retained all of their benefits, and even got some better ones. But the big thing is: these are quaranteed for three years.. What guarantee do the rest of us have that NCR wont cut our non-union benefits tomorrow? NONE.. They feel they own us and can do anything they want to us. Anyone that doesnt see the difference is a fool. Keep this union movement going
I haven't had a raise in 4 years, and took a 24% cut this year! I sent in a union card, can't wait to go union!!!!!!!!
Is there a public copy of the arbitrator's actual determination?
ny teamster contract details
CE-3'S are all demoted to CE-2's with a cut in pay to $45,800.00 with Bridge Pay for 18 months, same as us. However next July 09 there pay is increased to $51,500 and the Bridge Pay will continue until January 2010. Also July 09 they will become a Geographic Zone 3 which should add about an additional 10% to there pay. On January 2010 they get another 3% raise and July 2010 another 3% raise.
So once the Bridge Pay runs out they should be making $58,350.00 and by July 2010 they'll be making $60,100.00
These totals include the assumed 10% increase for Geographic Zone 3.
All current CE-2's will be receiving a 3% across the board raise this year and the next 2 after. CE-1's will be receiving a 5% raise this
year and the following 2 after.
Any CE's who elect to retire will get Full Medical Coverage for up to 40 weeks if they've worked 40 years or more, (1 week/year worked)
And up to 40 weeks of severance pay, (1 week/year worked) The rest of us get a maximum of 26 for both medical & severance pay.
FROM AN OLDER POST I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THEIR PAY SCALE
VOTE IN THE UNION NOW!!!!!
Wanting to find out how much customer engineers get paid for driving personal vehicle. Cause I'm only getting .41 cents per mile. Federal law says it is 57.5 per mile
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