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«Oldest ‹Older 401 – 460 of 460I'll bet the unionnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn is real proud to think they might get members of your mentality.
LISTEN UP ASSHOLE.. WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU KNOW...YOU HAVE A LOT OF NERVE TO MAKE A STATEMENT LIKE YOU JUST DID. GIVE ME A MINUTE ALONE WITH YOU AND ILL SHOW YOU MY CERTS..IT IS OBVIOUS YOU ARE NOT A CE. GIVE ME YOUR ADDRESS AND ILL SEND YOU SOMETHING SPECIAL. DELIEVERY..YOU MOTHER F&^%KE
I'd consider putting my address on here but you couldn't read it and certainly couldn't find it with your head so far up you butt. If you really want anyone reading this blog to join a unionnnnnnnnn you should stay off. No one in their right mind would follow you anywhere. It's plain you are nothing but(t) trouble and have probably done nothing worthwhile at NCR, ever.
Anonymous said...
I'll bet the unionnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn is real proud to think they might get members of your mentality.
LISTEN UP ASSHOLE.. WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU KNOW...YOU HAVE A LOT OF NERVE TO MAKE A STATEMENT LIKE YOU JUST DID. GIVE ME A MINUTE ALONE WITH YOU AND ILL SHOW YOU MY CERTS..IT IS OBVIOUS YOU ARE NOT A CE. GIVE ME YOUR ADDRESS AND ILL SEND YOU SOMETHING SPECIAL. DELIEVERY..YOU MOTHER F&^%KE
I'd consider putting my address on here but you couldn't read it and certainly couldn't find it with your head so far up you butt. If you really want anyone reading this blog to join a unionnnnnnnnn you should stay off. No one in their right mind would follow you anywhere. It's plain you are nothing but(t) trouble and have probably done nothing worthwhile at NCR, ever.
The union will be a waste of time... no union is a waste of time. If you read NCR financials the only people that got raises worth mentioning were upper management, they are shifting money and the only way they will break even is to cut jobs. NCR didn't make the moneythey said they broke even with expensives. New GPS systems give me a break. NCR has been poorly managed for years and now all ces are paying. I mean come on using different gas cards to save 2 cents a gallon. That may seem trivial, but we are screwed union or not.
You can say what you like about me. No matter which side you are on grab your ass. The next step they will be forced to do is separate the ces from ncr and make them FLT and make flt a nonprofit co that they own so they can show a lose on taxes.
The Union will only prevent this for a couple of years, but at least we will have time to figure out what to do.
Anonymous said...
I'll bet the unionnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn is real proud to think they might get members of your mentality.
ONE WOED...ASSHOLE
Hello all, There has been a Class Action Lawsuit filed against NCR for missed wages and so forth dealing with lunches, admin time and so on. The lawsuit has started in California. I have a copy of it and sent it to Steve Smith to maybe post it on the blog for all to review. It's to large to paste in the blog.
Call the Lawyer representing this case, Matt Dameron at 816-714-7137 for more information.
I really take offense at some of the comments I've read here. CE3's that got cut 3 years ago weren't really doing the job? Who are you to make a blanket comment like that-as if the 'big city CE3's' were some thing special? I've attended classes @ the old CTEC and Sugar Camp with some 'big city CE's' and believe me, they weren't as special as you'd lead us to believe.
Also, the threats made to the RTSS personnel-what kind of crap is that? That's really taking the high road and showing the level of people that NCR has now, union organizer or not.
I am an RTSS in the midwest and a 28 year employee of NCR WCS. I'm a rural person and do work on everything under the sun, and have been called to larger cities on several occasions in the past to support the local CE's when their CE3's couldn't handle the situation. I received a 24.7% pay cut in November of 2004, regardless of the fact that I was a mentor, team lead, champion on several pieces of equipment. I've lost over $40,000.00 in in the last three years and will never get that back, and never got a bridge payment help.
Was I happy? NO.
Am I old enough to retire? NO.
Did I still need to pay bills then? YES.
DO I STILL need to pay bills now? YES.
That is why I took the RTSS position, since the reality of the situation at the time pointed to not ever being able to be a CE3 again. (It still points that way now; it will be very hard to re-instate the CE3 position, even with Union support.)
Did I like the fact that I wouldn't get any O.T. ever again? NO.
Do I like the idea of being used as a puppet and have to possibly go to New York in the event of a strike? NO.
Do I like the idea that I've lost my right to affiliate with a collective bargaining unit? NO.
But I still like what I do, and have a lot of respect for my peers.
I had been working since October of 2005 to get someone from any Union interested in getting involved with my work group, and realized pretty quickly that it needed to be a national endeavor, that a small local group wouldn't succeed. But since January of this year, I've not been able to keep up with the efforts in our area. But what I see consistently referred to in this blog are question about who to contact, which points to a lack of a comprehensive contact list for IBEW reps in each of the NCR sub-areas.
If this effort is to succeed, that contact information and the ability of those who need it to get it is paramount. Instead of telling people to use the numbers listed in the middle of the blog itself (which means you have to look at each individual posting), put the numbers on the HOME PAGE, right up front and save everyone time and effort.
Above,
Good Idea. I don't know why they don't do that.
As far as city verses rural I think that’s union busters causing trouble.
I don't blame you for taking the RTSS job. What choice did you have?
Wish you could be in on the union vote. Maybe the RTSS position will be considered a union job after the union gets voted in. The Group Leader job was union way back when.
"CE3's that got cut 3 years ago weren't really doing the job? Who are you to make a blanket comment like that-as if the 'big city CE3's' were some thing special?"
That's a no-brainer!!! The CE3's cut 3 years ago wern't doing CE3 work! They ran the numbers, and found out YOU were skating! The CE3's that kept the CE3 posistion were doing the higher level work, and were told they would not have their position eliminated! Nutjob lied!! My manager wants me to keep doing the same work, no-way, I'm now just a keyboard swapper, that doesn't give a shit about NCR.
hey "nutjob is a lying..." obviously you weren't around prior to the first ce3 cut your fearless leaders stacked the deck by telling everyone to go to all retail locations and create bogus calls to get the calls per day per ce up to thta magic number 5 this is why the country guys got our throats cut unlike you city boys we did not work on just systems. we worked on every damned thing and were expected to perform as good or better than you specialists!! and as a reward our pay was cut so screw ncr.. you city boys need to get your head out of the dark cavity and realize boys you are not any better than the rest of us and sorry it doesn't cost more to live in the city!! It now costs more to live in the country due to less competition by retailers and the higher cost of transportation, distribution, and fuel! so everything from our groceries,gasoline, and even getting the sticks together to build a house cost more due to less competitiion... SO QUIT YOUR WHINING AND JOIN THE DAMNED UNION OR CARRY YOUR ASS DOWN THE ROAD!!!
Hey we need to stop this fighting and work together to get the Union voted in. we have all been screwed by NCR in one way or another. The guys in the rural areas had their pay cut and non of them deserved it. They work on everything and are held to the same standards as the Guys in the big city's and usually have a much greater distance to drive.
The guys in the city's have been dumped on also. Remember Permond? I remember when most if not all of the NCR retail team went to Permond and all took drastic pay cuts or had no job. Did any of those guys that are now back working for NCR get a big pay raise for coming back, I don't think so.
Last but not least the CE3'3. 20 bucks an hour and do the same great job you have always done for the company for the last 30 years. What other company could you work at for 30 years and only make 6 dollars an hour more then a new hire only doing first line ATM work. This is a slap in the face to all of us. this is why we all need to work at getting the Union voted in.
A "NorEaster" is coming. The time for change is now. Get your cards in be a part of the new NCR. Where we the workers have a say in our future. Together lets bring RESPECT back to our company. It all started here lets show our fellow workers the way to a more secure future
The new NCR, where the workers have input. I like the sound of that. Amen.
Union coast to coast...........
There's a storm coming.
just came off vacation. where is everybody?
im here...
I have a story about a typical evening inside the NCR club lounge at the Dryden hotel in Dayton, OH. I go in, and there is no one there. Looking around me, I see a big screen hi def television set, a high def movie player, a pool table, two dart boards, a fuzball table, and an air hockey table but not only that, there are desk spaces and chairs and tables for people to sit. Most of the time this great room is friggin empty. When a CE comes in, most of the time it is to gripe that they are only getting paid 16 dollars an hour (boo hoo). Then I will see an old, shrivelled up CE who has been here forever talking about how he can't go anywhere else and he is stuck with NCR or "jailed" as I heard the term. More than likely his kids have grown up and left the nest and he is sitting there in front of me complaining about his pay because he doesn't know that when things get tight you don't spend all your friggin money on things that you don't need including alcohol the occasional manag'et troise in Vegas with some pretty young thing because his wife can't (or won't) put out anymore. Most of the guys that are out here complaining have a nice car in the garage that they are making hefty payments on along with a big fat mortgage on a larger than needed house or a boat in the driveway that they don't use. You will alway complain about not having money IF YOUR FRIGGIN SPENDING IT ALL THE DAMN TIME YOU MORONS!!!!!! Hardly anyone in school mentions the fact that they arent paying for the hotel room they are in, or the food they are eating (as horrible as it might taste at that particular hotel) is free, or than they have an American Express card they can use for meals if they don't like the meals at the hotel or the fact that they are so damn lucky they arent using their own personal vehicles to run service calls. Lets get back to this club lounge. This is only for NCR employees. That means no one else can use the stupid room. The thing that pisses me off is that you guys are bitching about everything under the sun, in the very room provided to you by your company with all the amenities of a modern day bachelor pad but you are all bent out of shape because NCR acts just like every other corporation in modern day society. Pick up a magazine. Pick up a news paper. Pick your damn dick up off the floor if it helps you to see the big DUH sitting right in frong of you. THIS IS NORMAL!!!!! Nothing you say will change it so do me a favor. Use the stupid club room and shut the hell up or quit your job and go work for McDonalds or if you are old and shrivelled up go work for Donnies porn video shop in some backwoods podunk town to put some thrill back into your life or at the least, something else attached to all men. There are people starving all over the world and you guys are bitching about such stupid crap. There are people that earn 500 dollars a month instead of 500 dollars a week like most of us. How about those third world countries that pay out 500 dollars a year? You don't know how good you friggin have it. You want to be productive? How about working on constantly improving yourself at your decent paying job or send some of that money to the poor and destitute in other countries since you already know you are going to buy that stupid piece of crap motorcycle that you don't need right? Get a life. Shut the hell up, look in the mirror and be thankful for the things you do have YOU BIG BABIES!!!!
For real dude? What exactly are you smoking? You need to visit a shrink asap.......You are part of the problem, for real dude.
I now see the light at the end of the tunnel.
Got my card in....go union!!!
MESSAGE FROM BILL NUTTY
THIS CE DECK HAND JOB ABOARD MY YACHT (THE SEA-E-3) CONTEST IS REALLY TAKING OFF.
To whoever wrote this:
"NCR acts just like every other corporation in modern day society. Pick up a magazine. Pick up a news paper. Pick your damn dick up off the floor if it helps you to see the big DUH sitting right in frong of you. THIS IS NORMAL!!!!! Nothing you say will change it so do me a favor. Use the stupid club room and shut the hell up or quit your job and go work for McDonalds".
SEND ME YOUR RESUME TOO.
LOVE THE FLOOR THING.
THE NUT JOB
To all you senior ce's,
Take your experience of everything you are so good at repairing like itran, cisco, lexmark, genicom, oce, IBM and NCR pos systems and go to another company. Where they look at it and say so you can repair PC's and printers. That is well qualified to make 10/hr. The only place you could even imagine getting a job with those skills is a competing company of NCRs. Corporate America has changed since 1995. If you look at the expected time spent at one job it is 5 years. In other words companies only expect to have an employee for 5 years on average. Over that you start effecting their budget.
Is the pay differnet in different parts of the country? Yes, I found that out 4 years ago when I was a new ce and realized someone was excited they got a raise to 15/hr and they had already been with NCR for 3 years, I was making 2 more dollars then he was and I just got hired. I did research on my pay compaired to other pc repir techs in the area and I was making above the average. Now with the union possibilty I looked again and damned if the average of what I looked at 4 years ago didn't go down. Unfortunatly, we are all 2-8 weeks of training away from being replaced.
MESSAGE FROM BILL NUTTY
To whoever wrote:
"Unfortunatly, we are all 2-8 weeks of training away from being replaced".
YOU ARE SUCH THE CLASSIC PUSSY. KIDS MUST HAVE STOLE YOUR LUNCH MONEY ALL THE TIME.
WELL GOOD NEWS, SISSY BOY. SEND ME YOUR RESUME. I'M ENTERING YOU IN THE CE DECK HAND JOB WRITE IN CONTEST. THERE'S FIERCE COMPETITION OUT THERE BUT I'M PULLING FOR YA.
REMEMBER HA RRAY ME AND FUCK YOU
WHO LOVES YA? NOT ME.
THE NUT JOB
To the new guys that are perusing this blog...I'll keep it short. I haven't been at this job very long, And I like my pay, my benefits, my hours, my workload. I hate the idea of unionizing and standing up for better working conditions when I have no complaints about the conditions I currently work under. I'm not greedy and I don't feel entitled or like I am owed this position.
This is exactly why I signed my card, and asked for more to give out.
I don't want to lose what I have, and in the past few years, I've seen not only NCR guys get shafted, but Diebold, IBM, IT departments of entire companies; NCR weathered the cutbacks the best, but in the end,all were cut back. My rtss is an rtss because he couldn't stomach/afford another pay cut. I don't wanna be in his position thirty years from now, or even five years from now. But the only way to guarantee that is to sign that card and send it in.
Speaking of cards, if you're out on a site one day and open up a receipt printer or scanner pcb box and there's a union card in it, you best sign it, or give it to someone to sign - that's why I sent it to ya!
I have a story about a typical evening inside the NCR club lounge at the Dryden hotel in Dayton, OH. I go in, and there is no one there. Looking around me, I see a big screen hi def television set, a high def movie player, a pool table, two dart boards, a fuzball table, and an air hockey table but not only that, there are desk spaces and chairs and tables for people to sit. Most of the time this great room is friggin empty. When a CE comes in, most of the time it is to gripe that they are only getting paid 16 dollars an hour (boo hoo).
to the guy that wrote this...WHAT AN ASS!!!
I have a story about a typical evening inside the NCR club lounge at the Dryden hotel in Dayton, OH. I go in, and there is no one there. Looking around me, I see a big screen hi def television set, a high def movie player, a pool table, two dart boards, a fuzball table, and an air hockey table but not only that, there are desk spaces and chairs and tables for people to sit. Most of the time this great room is friggin empty. When a CE comes in, most of the time it is to gripe that they are only getting paid 16 dollars an hour (boo hoo).
What an idiot. You are the kind of employee our pondscum leadership team likes. CE's could care less about that lounge. The company throws you a cheap bone, and you think its wonderful. A big screen TV and a fuzball table, and you wont mind losing 25% of your pay, or your benefits, or your pension. Just like the NCR shirts. They act like theyve done you a big favor, then cut your pay. Those shirts ended up costing the CE's around $2000 each. Get a grip on reality, chump.
it cost me $20,000 not 2000 ncr sucks so does my attitude
GO UNION!!
There are guys looking to orginize in the 520 area. Can someone post a name and phone number in the 520 area..
Call Bobby Hayes at (404) 788-0235 or e-mail him at BHayes1022@aol.com.
SEND UNION CARDS TO:
Bobby Hayes
PO Box 1722
Conyers, GA 30012
Thats 5 shirts at $2000. $10,000 for shirts to advertise for the company that screwed you. Not gonna happen, they can stick those shirts where the sun don't shine. oops, too late I already tossed them
COME ON NEW ENGLAND, WE NEED ABOUT A DOZEN MORE CARDS SO OUR REGION CAN GO TO THE NLRB, THEN WE CAN HAVE A VOTE! IF YOU KNOW ANYONE WHO IS SITTING ON THE FENCE SPEAK TO THEM ABOUT THE BENIFITS OF A UNION AND GET THEM TO SEND THEIR CARDS IN. DO IT TODAY OR NCR WILL BE OUTSOURCING OUR JOBS BEFORE WE KNOW IT!
Give those NCR shirts to your locale homeless shelter. NCR will get plenty of free advertising when all the bums are out panhandling and looking good in their new NCR shirts..
Anonymous said...
I have a close Family member who is a retired Corporte Executive. He recently said "NCR is FU--ING YOU, you need a union! And of course he was never "pro union" but with our situation he is. He agrees there is too much "Corporate Greed". So come on guys and gals, get with the program and send in those UNION CARDS so we can go to the NLRB and proceed with the vote!!
Another gal said...
I have decided on voting union. This is from another gal.
This blog really made me see some things. I even clicked on the link of older posts and was like WOW, another 700 posts from ce's. I read as manay as I could.
Yes Union.
HOW TO PISS OFF NCR:
1. Sign Union Card.
2. Drop in Mailbox.
3. Look in Mirror.
4. Feel Proud of Yourself!
1. Sign Union Card.
2. Drop in Mailbox.
3. Look in Mirror.
4. Feel Proud of Yourself!
623, You can E-Mail Kitty Prouse at Kitty_Prouse@IBEW.org for your card. OR CALL HER 409-882-4686. She will get a card out to you ASAP.
socialism is not the way to fix the "problem". If you want to make more money, go find a different job.
Hey Cheeseandbacon, You sound like a dumb hick from Michigan. NCR used to pay its help well and lots of other companies too. Used to be a CEO made about 25-30 times more than us Grunt Workers, now they make more than 200 times what we do. It's not fair, screw them, it's time to orgainize. If you want to sit back and kiss corporate ass's go ahead, stupid wimpy employee. Here in NYC/NJ we have been with the Teamsters for 32 years, still and will have decent paying jobs. I make $1200.00/week as contract negoiations are going weel. What do you make??
THIS WAS E-MAILED TO ALL CE'S IN THE NORTHEAST CHISTMAS EVE AND HELPED START THE MOVEMENT. READ ON!
THE HOLIDAYS ARE HERE AND IN WHAT IS BECOME ITS CUSTOM, NCR IS PUTTING THE SCREWS TO ITS CUSTOMER ENGINEERS ONCE AGAIN.
THIS YEARS "GIFT" IS THE ELIMINATION OF THE CE3 POSITION.
ALL CE3's ARE BEING REDUCED TO THE CE2 LEVEL WITH REDUCTIONS IN PAY RANGING FROM 10 TO 30%.
OTHERS CUSTOMER ENGINEERS ARE BEING FORCED INTO "FIRST LINE TECHNICIAN" POSITIONS.
LAST YEAR THEY FROZE OUR PENSIONS, THE PREVIOUS YEAR'S GIFT WAS REBANDING, AND BEFORE THAT THEY DID AWAY WITH CE4's, DOUBLE TIME ON SUNDAYS & HOLIDAYS, ETC. ETC.
THE IRONY OF ALL THIS IS REFLECTED IN THE RECENT ANNOUNCEMENT THAT "WORLDWIDE CUSTOMER SERVICE" MADE A PROFIT OF 9 MILLION DOLLARS, ITS FIRST SIGNIFICANT PROFIT IN 15 YEARS.
IT IS TIME FOR CUSTOMER ENGINEERS TO SHARE IN BENEFITS OF IMPROVED PRODUCTIVITY AND EFFICIENCY RATHER CONTRIBUTING TO PROFITS THROUGH THE LOSS OF HARD EARNED COMPENSATION AND BENEFITS.
WE NEED TO ORGANIZE NOW!
THE NEW YORK METRO GROUP HAS A UNION CONTRACT WITH THE TEAMSTERS AND NCR.
THE REST OF US IN NEW ENGLAND AND NATIONWIDE NEED TO JOIN,
WE CAN'T TRUST NCR.
IT IS TIME TO FIGHT FOR OUR RIGHTS.
MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL.
If the union is so great as they claim. Let all us non-believers see a copy of the current contract. I'd like to know what my rights and benefits are before I sign up.
mr anonymous what do you not understand about $1200 versus $700 to $800 a week
duh!! it looks like union guys are getting four to five hundred a week more in pay for the same damn job
GET OFF YOUR ASS AND SIGN A CARD FOR THE VOTE OR CARRY YOUR ASS DOWN THE ROAD!!!!!
GO UNION!!!!!!!!!!!
I hope everyone has had a chance to listen to the latest Driving Service Excellence CD. I just love to be told what to do and not do by CheatUS. He was complaining about CE's talking to much in front of customers and how we shouldn't do that. This kind of stuff never oust to happen when this company treated their employees right . They just don't get it, what is wrong with management these days? Is it the schools that they all go to? Where do they learn that if you treat your employees like crap they will exceed for you? It just makes me want to get back at them anyway I can. A few years ago I would have done anything for NCR. I went out of my way to bring in revenue. I went out of my way to keep the customers happy. This was my company but now it is just my job. They just don't understand that you get what you give. Now everyone get your CD and get your quarterly talking down to.
Sign your union card and get it mailed in, avoid that sanitarium stay. The rooms are filling up quickly, we can kiss our nuts goodbye......
Union for all!
Know why New York City is the best city in the world? It's the people, they have backbone!
Can you stand in front of a mirror, look yourself in the eye and feel proud?
Yes, but I can't find my balls. Bill Nutty took them on "bet your balls Friday night". But I am proud that I went from pumpen gas to fixen these new fangled computers. And I slept at a holiday inn for a week. That there commercial is right.
NCR CORPORATION CUSTOMER ENGINEERS
Stueve Siegel Hanson LLP filed a class action lawsuit on behalf of NCR Corporation customer engineers for unpaid wages for time spent performing job related tasks before and after thier scheduled shift and for missed rest and meal breaks. For information or to join go to
stuevesiegel.com/CM/CurrentCases/CurrentCases157.asp
Spread the word and get those cards signed...
They are now trying to make us work holidays while not paying us for that holiday; they expect us to flex another day in the week.
I can't live without overtime; cost of living is too much in my area.
NCR CORPORATION CUSTOMER ENGINEERS
Stueve Siegel Hanson LLP filed a class action lawsuit on behalf of NCR Corporation Customer Engineers for unpaid wages for time spent performing job related tasks before and after thier scheduled shift and for missed rest and meal breaks. For information or to join go to www.
stuevesiegel.com/CM/CurrentCases/CurrentCases157.asp
Anonymous said...
Spread the word and get those cards signed...
They are now trying to make us work holidays while not paying us for that holiday; they expect us to flex another day in the week.
That only happens if you let it The 8 holiday hours are yours and if you don't say anything even a union won't help you. The Union won't hold your hand. They will ask "did you go to hr and ask where your pay is?" If you say no well that is your fault.
So if you work 40 hours in a week with a holiday and only get paid for 40, you need to contact payroll and hr.
A Holiday is a full day off, with no on call. You must agree to the flex day in lou of a Holiday.
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