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YOU CAN HAVE A SEAT AT THE TABLE !
YOU HAVE DEMANDED RESPECT AT THE WORKPLACE!
YOU CAN AFFECT CHANGE IN YOUR PAY, BENEFITS, AND WORKING CONDITIONS!
YOU HAVE DEMANDED RESPECT AT THE WORKPLACE!
YOU CAN AFFECT CHANGE IN YOUR PAY, BENEFITS, AND WORKING CONDITIONS!
The Right Choice
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 400 of 460 Newer› Newest»Congradulations nuti, you are the most hated CEO in the world!!!!
you guys are pathetic--if you had a real set of balls you'd go work somewhere where you didn't hate the company that writes your paycheck. this is a free country and no one is forcing you to work here so either stop whinning and blaming the company for everything or go to work somehwere else.
* * * C O M P A R I S O N * * *
Bill Nuti 2007 Compensation +141%
Avg. CE3 2007 Compensation -30%
Q. Who approves these payouts?
A. Bill Nuti & his Appointed Cronies
BUT . . . . . Unions collect “DUES”
Therefore, Unions must be BAD?
"stop whinning and blaming the company for everything or go to work somehwere else." - March 28, 2008 6:36 PM
You forgot the THIRD Choice . . .
JOIN A UNION!
This is YOUR Company, Fight for IT!
I see that you are starting a NEW Forum #5? Good, Let's Review:
* * * The NCR Leadership Team is ROBBING YOU! * * *
We just lost 30% in WAGES!
We just got DEMOTED to CE2!
Our Pension is FROZEN!
We finance our HEALTHCARE!
We finance our RETIREMENT!
Our BONUS was Anemic!
Our ERP Package went to Japan!
They got EXCESSIVE COMPENSATION!
They got CRONIE PROMOTIONS!
They got CORPORATE JETS!
They got 7 WTC ACCOMODATIONS!
They got STOCK OPTIONS!
They got ROBUST BONUSES!
They got ENHANCED HEALTHCARE!
They got GOLDEN PARACHUTES!
Situation: You put your money into an interest bearing savings account. After 10 years, the bank decides takes back "their" interest!
What do you DO?
If YOU can answer THIS, your Union Card is already in the MAIL 8-)
My heart is with you NCR CE's, who know, you must now stand and be counted.
Stand Tall- Union Now!!!
Someone said, that Bill Nuti has a summer home in the Hamptons on Long Island, NY. When will it stop? I am already struggling and having financial difficulties. Why didn't NCR management take a paycut? Who exactly is looking out for us?
Union Coast to Coast - Signed my card !
SEEMS LIKE THE RESIDENT/REMOTE CE's ARE FEARFUL OF JOINING THE IBEW. "YOU HAVE NOTHING TO FEAR BUT FEAR ITSELF"! SEND IN YOUR CARD OR CALL 978-302-3690 TO GET ONE!
Come on New England, we started this movement, send in those cards so we can have a vote and procede with the Union!
There is a saying that one monkey dont run the show, I know that management see's us as monkeys, and pays us peanuts, lets all stand together and let Nutti know that WE are not monkeys and will NOT accept peanuts while he feeds upon the fruit of OUR labor. We must elvolve ar die...
Go Union
I've been a Ce for over 20 years and have seen many changes some that I liked and others that I dodn't like. It goes wothout saying this is one change i don't like. However, I've been around long enough to see how this job has changed and it's much different. It's not unlike what's happned with all technologies which have become simpler and more of a commodity. I know none of you want to read this but I'm being honest and you all know it. Let's be honest about this and not pretend the company is crule and mean becasue the CEO makes more than we do and lives in the Hamptons. Come on guys that is childish. You're blaming the company for everything possible. NCR like every big corporation has it's faults but I still lovethis place and work with many great people.including many many managers and guys pretty high up in the ranks. Their descent guys who work hard every day just like us trying to do the right thing for the company and our customers. I will never replace their leadership with that of a union. Those of you who are looking at a union as a white knight are kidding yourselves. I understand many of you don't want to hear this because you're so jacked up by all the union promises. I respect your opinion and hope you respect mine. My only request is you step back and be realistic.
Please stop trying to pretend that what has happened to us nothing and its going to get better. You are turning your cheek to your co-workers. I have been in the union for the last 25 years and thank god we had a union in place when all this crap hit the fan. I still have ce3 status, my pay did not get cut and I am still have my right to live life to its fullest while the rest of my coworkers are suffering and wondering what the near future will bring them! So you can take that rightous speech back to your loving managers and great company and continue to tell yourself that everything is hunkie doorie.. Please vote the union in and stop the pain!!!
to all you union critics. Please go away and avoid this blog. you are not wanted here anymore. and when the union is voted in, dont ask for support. you dont deserve it.
20 year CE, guess you didn't get your pay cut? Are you still a CE?
I am Canadain, my job was outsourced to another company. I was a CE3, resident tech that did everything from FLM, SLM, Installs, etc. Was on call every 2nd weekend, lost alot of stat holidays. Worked an average of 475 to 600 hours overtime per year. Almost was terminated 12 years ago when I mentioned union at a meeting. A residency should have 3 people, not one. I already was saving them money by being availiable to do the extras. I'm not complaining. The additional income was a bonus. A year has passed since my job was outsourced, looking back , I was brainwashed into thinking NCR would take care of me after the 30 years of service..... how wrong I was. I blame myself for being so blind and loyal. I don't see any support here from other former Canadian fellow co-workers. BC is unionized, they have approx 2 years left of their contract which states their jobs cannot be outsourced within this period. After these 2 years are expired, probably see some de-unionizing attempts by NCR Canada. So a word of advice for you United States guys, add this to your bargaining . And for me, it's time to move on with my life. I think you guys are doing the right thing. This is one industry that needs more of a voice from it's employee's.Something fair for the company and employee at the same time. Good luck , live long and prosper.
Cheat-le’s “Windshield Companion”
I just listened to this crap from Chris Cheat-le and almost threw-up!
Statement: Profit is up 7% but Revenues are Flat!
Meaning: We can’t “Grow the Business” so we again had to rape the CE3s!
Statement: MOT – The CE returned to the store on his day off (and didn’t charge for that).
Meaning: Come to work on your Day Off (for FREE).
Statement: MOT - The New Jersey CE came in from Vacation to fix a Diebold ATM.
Meaning: The Teamsters again “Saved the DAY”
“Windshield Companion” CDs make GREAT Frisbees!
Canadain friend,
Thanks for stating the fact so many CE's in states don't see. They think the company will take care of them. Those days are gone. Look what happen to the workers in Canada. The only one not screwed, were the UNION workers. Wake up!!!!! " MAINE"
I just want to let all of the CE's in the geat North West know that if you dont get in on this movement soon you will be left out.
The protection that a Union will give you will far out weigh your fears. I have contacted many of you via cell messages, and the responce has been pitiful. I am a CE in the North West and I just cant understand what you guys are so afraid of. I have been with this company for over 7 years and I have seen the changes, and to tell you the truth I'm very concerned. NCR changes the rules almost on a daily basis, Its really becomming a pain to keep up. With a union contract NCR could not change the rules as eaisly with out consulting with you and me. Do yourself a favor, get a union card and mail it back, then at the vote , you can say yea or nay. The choice is yours. Personally I am going to vote for the union, given the chance. but if you guys dont respond I may never get that chance, nor will the other s that have already responded. Thanks
If the IBEW fails to unionize NCR, I will quit, no way I will stay and work for Nutjob nuti, and Cheat'em cheadle anymore!
Correct me if I am wrong, in the U.S , 60% needed , Canada, 40%. Appears a union would be easier to form in Canada. So few Canadians posting, looks unlikely Canada will jump onboard.
Track nuti on our jet
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N70CR
The union hasn't promised me anything. I am pretty sure that is the same as everyone out here. Having a union may not be the save all, however having a contract and being able to stop them from changing benefits, pay, vacation, work hours, shift times, etc.... etc... etc... when ever they feel the need to reband or restructure..... THAT IS THE ISSUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WE MAY BE ABLE TO SAVE WHAT WE HAVE LEFT WITH THE UNION AND A CONTRACT.
If you don't think so it's your right. Sign the card and give everyone the option to vote and lets see where the chips fall.
If you think things are great and a pay cut or vacation cut won't come to you ; stick around a few more years and see where you are. You will be where the CE3's of a few months and a few years ago were and you will be next on the block. You just need a few more years under your belt.
Sign the cards and lets try to HELP OURSELVES!!!
There is a reason management doesn't want a union shop. It will tie their hands and they won't be able to fiddle with the workers the way they can now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SIGN THE CARDS AND LETS VOTE!!!!
* * * N C R * O W N S * Y O U * * *
They control your WORK HOURS!
They control your FAMILY TIME!
They control your PAYCHECK!
They control your VEHICLE! (NCR Bread Truck)
They control your MIND!
BUT . . . . . Unions collect “DUES”
Therefore, Unions must be BAD?
*****NCR UNITED STATES TO OUTSOURCE WORK FORCE.******
That is going to happen! Make no mistake, this is their next move if we don't act now. Look what happen in Canada. I'm voting for the UNION, but if doesn't happen, I will move on. No sweat off my back. I will find another job. I'm good at what I do.
But for the people who think 13 to 15 dollars hour is good pay, think again. They think you are over payed. For the loyal CE'S who got a pay cut and think it not going to happen again, just email CHRIS C. and ask him if your pay is safe at its frozen level. RTSS work force to be cut by 30 % by years end.
I'm not trying to spread rumors, but it's just a guess on what their next move will be. Maybe they will give us a 20% pay raise.
The only thing I know is with UNION, things are set in stone.
Our RTSS does nothing but run service calls! There jobs are next to be gone!
This company is spending money like it was nothing to them, look at how much it cost to produce that CD od Cheat-all and send to all of the ce's. There goes your next bonus or raise. A simple email would of sufficed. I just dont understand it all anymore, we have to get approval to run calls on overtime, put off calls all weekend long if the customer is not on the HOT list etc... This is insane.... I just dont know how much more of this crap I am going to take. I have already looked into getting another job.
My old boss said it a while back before he retired, "This company is CHEAP ans so am I"
NCR Guarantee:
RTSS will NOT get a pay-cut until after the Teamster Strike this summer (Scab-Force).
That is why they can't get a Summer Vacation with their family!
The Cheat-all CD will give Special Recognition to anyone who Works for FREE!
(Special Recognition: $0.00 / hour, Decent Salary: $30.00 / hour)
NCR is NOT Cheap. They just play Monetary MIND-Games!
They control your WORK HOURS!
They control your FAMILY TIME!
They control your PAYCHECK!
They control your VEHICLE!
They control your MIND!
You forgot the Territory Mind-Game:
BIG MOUTH: Bad Territory!
closed mouth: Good territory!
Bill Nuti Says:
"Wear those NCR SCAB-SHIRTS!"
Sorry but we can't afford the Summer Collection ($2.50 each)
The Cheat-all CD will give Special Recognition to anyone who Works for FREE!
(Special Recognition: $0.00 / hour, Decent Salary: $30.00 / hour) - March 30, 2008 7:01 AM
GUESS WHAT: The NJ Teamster GOT PAID!
UNION LETTER - Jan. 11, 2008
"Mr. Smith indicates a "CE stated that he eats his lunch on the run to his next call and works until 5:30 or 5:45 without getting paid to make the customer happy"…no one – 'no one' -- should be skipping their one hour lunch without getting paid – ever!!!" NCR management absolutely concurs with this. You do not need a union to tell you this, nor do you need a union to get paid for overtime. This topic is covered in the CE Handbook . . . . .
HEY AL, Better tell Cheat-all about THIS!
Legal Matter:
Doesn't the Fair Labor Standards Act make it illegal for Cheat-all to encourage Free Labor on your Day Off?
http://www.dol.gov/esa/whd/flsa/
The Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) establishes minimum wage, overtime pay, recordkeeping,
and child labor standards affecting full-time and part-time workers in the private sector and in
Federal, State, and local governments.
Sorry but we can't afford the Summer Collection ($2.50 each)- March 30, 2008 7:06 AM
Have your wife cut the sleeves off the winter NCR shirts and hem the cuff. (she has NOTHING BETTER to DO!)
Our company, NCR, recently sent a CD out for all Customer/Field Engineers to listen to. It was presented to us by Chris Cheadle, Vice Presedent of America's Customer Services. One of the topics was about a Customer Engineer in New Jersey who went out to finish a service call at a customer's site and never charged NCR for his time. Doesn't the Fair Labor Standards Act make it illegal to encourage Free Labor on your Day Off?
Don't ever skip your lunch or eat on the run to your next call. By doing so you are cutting your own wages from 20.00 an hour to 17.77 an hour.
Don't believe the old-timer BULLSHIT.
It's just another message from BILL NUTJOB.
Don't believe the old-timer BULLSHIT.
It's just another message from BILL NUTJOB.
I'm not leaving untill I make all the customers hate NCR as much as I do!
GUYS THIS BLOG IS TOTALLY OUT OF CONTROL!! ALL THIS HAS BECOME IS A DISRUPTION FROM THE TRUE GOAL OF ORGANIZING THE CE WORKING CLASS INTO A COHERENT UNIONIZED WORK FORCE.
RIGHT NOW THE MANAGEMENT BOYS ARE WINNING THE WAR THEY HAVE ONE OR TWO INSTIGATORS LOGGING INTO THE BLOG AND DISRUPTING THE TRUE GOAL THAT WE SHOULD HAVE AT THIS POINT!!
WE SHOULD BE CALLING FRIENDS AND WORK ASSOCIATES AND BEING POSITIVE WORKING TOWARD OUR GOAL OF BEING A CONTRACTED WORKFORCE THAT HAS A CONTRACT AND A VISION FOR THE FUTURE!!
EVERYONE THAT LOGS ON AND STARTS SAYING F___ YOU MANAGEMENT HAS LOST SIGHT OF THE TRUE GOAL IGNORE THOSE POSTINGS AND START CALLING EVERYONE YOU KNOW AND GET THEM FIRED UP. WE NEED THE UNION SO THAT OUR JOBS AND PAY WILL BE PROTECTED BY A CONTRACT! WE WILL THEN NO LONGER BE "AT WILL EMPLOYEES" THAT CAN BE TERMINATED OR TOLD YOU WANT A JOB?? BE IN TIMBUCKTUU TOMORROW AT EIGHT OR YOU'RE FIRED!!
COME ON GUYS POST THE POSITIVE SUCH AS THE CONTACT FOR "TEXAS IS KITTY PROUSE PLEASE CALL FOR INFO"
THANKS FROM A DUMB FARMBOY FROM TEXAS
"
First quarter is all but over, the number come out next week, are we going ro hand over the reins to uppermanagement? I say hell no!
I really like my job and the customers I serve, but dayton has a better plan, or so they think.
I urge everyone who reads this to get a union card and sign it. Oh! dont forget to mail it back! I've been told by some of our IBRW reps that some of those who requested cards have not returned them, come on guys! Get er' done!
Yes, Our friend and co-worker from Texas is correct. Stop replying and getting nasty with the anti Union stuff you see on the blog. NCR Has hired Jackson Lewis, www.jacksonlewis.com , an anti Union firm who will do anything to stop the Union movement and this is typical of there tactics. I know we're all passionate about going union but just ignore this anti Union stuff. Tell your co-workers about the movement and keep it going!
GO UNION!!!
Jobs Outsourced In Canada all except B,C as they have a claus in their aggrement their jobs cannot be outsourced. Learn from us. In Canada the Union did protect the employee. Do it now, get your cards mailed back. The 2nd quarter is near,probably more bad news. Please expidite the process,get those cards in the mail ASAP!!!
Yes,I was one of those that did not live in BC where they had a union. My job was outsourced to a company called AM/PM Services Ltd.I was offered employment with them but they paid approx. $14.00 an hour, I refused the offer. NCR sure took care of me..... NOT!
* * * M O T * * * (Cheat-all Talk)
Ever wonder what this acronym "really" means?
"M"onetary & "O"vertime - "T"ermination policy!
HEY CHEAT-LE, Special Rcognition doesn't Pay the BILLS!
Say: F L S A to M O T
MOT Classes;
Windshield Companions;
CINTAS Scab-Shirts;
Jackson - Lewis LLP
30% Buys a Lotta CRAP!
IBEW BLOG . . . . PRICELESS
You may as well hang it up. It's obvious you can't get enough people to sign cards, much less make an effort send it in. You're a bunch of lazy misfits. By the way, when the union contract in Canada expires what do you think is going to happen? Negotiations? Not on your life. The remainder of Canada service will be outsourced and the union members looking for work. This too is your future. You'd better grab those $10 an hour jobs now while they're still available, but you won't. You only post your threats about leaving, you don't actually have the guts to do what you say. By the way, this blog is for everyone who has a stake in this decision about a union.
Anonymous said...
You may as well hang it up. It's obvious you can't get enough people to sign cards, much less make an effort send it in. You're a bunch of lazy misfits. By the way, when the union contract in Canada expires what do you think is going to happen? Negotiations? Not on your life. The remainder of Canada service will be outsourced and the union members looking for work. This too is your future. You'd better grab those $10 an hour jobs now while they're still available, but you won't. You only post your threats about leaving, you don't actually have the guts to do what you say. By the way, this blog is for everyone who has a stake in this decision about a union.
You claim that you have a stake in all this also. I beg to differ!!!
If you are a CE, How could you just sit there and accept what has happened? I truly do not think that you are a CE. The only threat that I am posting is that the Union will get voted in! Thats right and you better pray that your Identity remains anonymous. You sound so confident about what you have said earlier. Be a man and announce to the rest of us who you are, so the rest of us know who to beat down. I will bet $1000 to your nickle that you wont. I will meet with you face to face and explain to you why you are so wrong! Come on big boy. I'd love to show you why!!! Tell us how we could contact you. I bet you don't! You sweat from my nutsack!! Sorry in advance to all the women on this blog!
i beleve that we can do this one thing that one of the guys in my groop did to get some of the cards sined was to invite the whole groop out for pizza and talk about the union and after ahour of the meeting there had IBEW show up and anser ? and the they all got cards and got them singed it worked they got a lot of cards that way
Well Guys and Gals,
I think the media is picking up on our side of the story. I'm sure everyone got this email
Dear Fellow Employees,
From time-to-time, news media outlets will directly contact an NCR employee or contractor, requesting comments or an interview about the company’s operations, an industry trend or a current issue.
As covered in our annual Code of Conduct training, NCR policy (CMP 1104) requires that any news media inquiry related to NCR’s business must be referred immediately to a company media relations manager. If you need help locating an NCR media relations manager, click here.
If contacted by any journalist or media representative, please explain that you are not in a position to discuss the issue with them and will pass their contact information to an NCR media relations manager. The NCR media relations manager will follow up with the journalist/media representative and manage the company’s response, which may include arranging an interview, as appropriate.
Even a casual conversation with a journalist is subject to being published in a magazine, newspaper, etc. or posted on a Web site. News media are under no obligation to review their stories with anyone in advance of publication or posting. And unless the item in question contains blatant errors, it can be very difficult, if not impossible, to have it changed.
If you are asked to be interviewed as a private citizen or a member of a professional or non-profit group, please use good judgment in such situations and be respectful of each other, our customers and partners. If you are identified as an NCR employee, your comments could be interpreted as coming from you as a representative of the company. If you are uncertain about such an interview, please feel free to check first with media relations.
Regards,
Even tho they did not mention us the CE"s I do think NCR doesn't want anyone to find out what greedy bastards they really are
NOW, do YOU believe ME?
They control your WORK HOURS!
They control your FAMILY TIME!
They control your PAYCHECK!
They control your VEHICLE!
They control your MIND!
Give her a call or anonymous Email, I did!! Just dial *67 before you call to block the caller ID.
I’m a reporter at the Dayton Business Journal that covers NCR. I would like to talk to someone a little more about stuff that is mentioned on the web site and things that are going on with the employees. Could you send me an email with contact information for someone?
Thanks!
Katie Maurer
Reporter
Dayton Business Journal
937-528-4427
137 N. Main St.
Dayton, Oh
kmaurer@bizjournals.com
I spoke to several sources today and I learned that:
30% LESS for 30% LESS is really working!
Even though you are not yet an "official" Bargaining Unit, you are learning the concept.
C O N G R A T U L A T I O N S ! On your Teamwork!
(keep kicking 'em in the BALLS!)
1. Take your Lunch daily. Call your old buddy and say "let's do lunch".
2. That shabby OBF Presenter? Change it Anyway then OBF it Again.
Ship it "Buddy Stock" to some other unsuspecting CE!
3. On your next Conference Call ASK Lots of Questions! (stretch 1/2 hour into 1 & 1/2 hours)
4. When your TM comes to check up YOU, call ALL of your Buddies (Warning System)
Feel free to ADD to the 30% Lester . . . . 8-)
Kick 'em in their Customers!
Kick 'em in their Wallet!
Kick 'em in the Media!
SOMEONE PUT THE NUMBERS TO CALL FOR THE IBEW CONTACTS ON THE MAIN PAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO LOOK AT THIS MAY NOT TAKE THE TIME TO LOOK THROUGH THE THOUSAND OR SO ENTRIES.
MAKE IT EASY ON THE ONES WHO MAY BE ON THE FENCE.
I'VE GOTTEN CARDS TO MY AREA BUT WE ARE SPREAD OUT AND NEED ALL THE HELP WE CAN MUSTER SO MAKE IT EASY!!!!!!!!!
OH YEAH DON'T FORGET YOU SHOULDN'T TALK TO ANYONE ABOUT WHATS HAPPENING JUST LIE TO MAKE YOUR SLA'S. THAT'S ETHICAL AND MEETS THE CODE OF CONDUCT (CPM BULLSH#@!!!!!)
TELL YOUR COWORKERS DON'T ASSUME THEY KNOW. I PERSONALLY HAVE TALKED TO SOME NEWER PEOPLE THAT HAVE NO IDEA ABOUT ANY OF THIS.
SIGN AND DRIVE IT HOME (TO UPPER MANAGEMENT) PROGRAM!!!!!!!!
BLOG Chatter is just "a few Dead-enders" at work.
An NLRB Election WILL get NCR's attention!
YOUR Card is Critical!
Mail it Today!
An Open Letter to Chris Cheat-le:
Mr. Cheat-le,
Using your CEs as a Profit Piggy-bank is Unethical. They have worked hard to "earn" their
annual increases and for you to rob them of this "life-style" enhancer is criminal. These
"stipends" barely offset their increases in Healthcare and Retirement expenses.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/23766376@N07/2379208779/
After your 2006 bout with the ASU, you should understand just how VULNERABLE NCR is!
Your tactical "mind-games" are bordering on illegal in this country and are leading the
workforce down al irreversible path.
You really should reconsider this MADDNESS before it spills over onto our CUSTOMERS!
A Concerned CE3 (CE2)
This is the response I received from the US Dept. of Labor concerning Chris Cheat-all's remarks on the recent CD concerning working without getting payed.
Thank you for contacting the U.S. Department of Labor National Contact Center.
The Wage and Hour Division (WHD) addresses which work - related activities constitute compensable time, or hours worked, under the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA).
The office to best answer your questions regarding pay for hours worked is the Columbus OH - WHD - District Office. You may contact this office at (614) 469-5677. If you are unable to reach a representative or have not received a return call within 3 business days, please provide us with your name, address, telephone number and the dates and times you attempted to call the office, so that we can forward your information to your local office.
You may also visit their website at www.wagehour.dol.gov for additional information and www.osha.gov/pls/epub/owa_pub.pub_form to obtain publications on hours worked regulations.
Thank you,
The U.S. Department of Labor National Contact Center
Disclaimer: "This response is for information purposes only and does not constitute an official communication of the U.S. Department of Labor. For an official response, please write: U.S. Department of Labor, 200 Constitution Avenue NW, Washington DC 20210."
I received a phone call from The Dept of Labor's Columbus office concerning Chris Cheat-all's remarks on the recent CD concerning working without getting payed mentioned above. The bottom line unfortunately is that Chis Cheat-all can say what he wants as long as he's not pushing us to do so. The Dept. of Labor rep further said "It sounds shady but it isn't illegal".
Well i am hearing alot of talk
what is the bottom line for the northeast is there any inprovement here r we all just talking or we doin something??
can we get a status update from union reps where we stand???
NCR currently pays about $1million in corporate state tax between the Texas franchise tax and the Michigan Single Business tax. In order to achieve a more tax efficient structure and segregate pieces of its business, all operations in both Texas and Michigan will be placed in new entities -- TX LLC and MI LLC. These two LLCs (Limited Liability Corporations) must have employees and the plan is to move employees who reside in these two states from NCR into the new LLCs. In Michigan, there will be five (5) employees from Teradata moved into the Michigan LLC--the rest of the Michigan employees will remaining in NCR and be leased to the MI LLC. In Texas, there will be 266 employees from CFO, FSD, RSD, SMD, TD, and WCS transferred to the the Texas LLC (see attached list).
There will be no negative tax implications to the employees being transferred into these two entities as a result of this move since it is occurring at the beginning of the fiscal year (effective December 22, 2003). The benefit and savings plans the employees currently participate in will continue without change; the credited service dates for employees will not be affected; pension eligibility will not be affected.
We plan to notify the affected employees of the company change -- when they view their pay statement on-line and/or print out the statement, they will notice a change in the employer name and employer ID number on the advice statements. The employee communication is in draft form and is currently under review by senior tax management. The intent of the communication is to let the employees know about the move to the LLC and to reassure them their service with NCR will not be affected in any way, and that they will not need to make any changes to their benefit or savings plans. The intent is to have the communication ready to release on Monday morning since the employees will be able to view their pay statements on-line beginning on Tuesday, January 6, 2004.
If you have any questions, please feel free to contant myself or Brenda Michalek.
Thanks.
Crystal
Crystal Yeager
WCS Human Resources
(Tel: VP 622-6855; 937-445-6855
(Fax: VP 622-2582; 937-445-2582
+Eml: crystal.yeager@ncr.com
GUYS IN TEXAS AND MICHIGAN AS YOU CAN SEE UNCLE SUGAR SAVED A COO MIILION BY CHEATING ON HIS TAXES THEN CUT YOUR PAY TO BOOT
GO UNION!!!
Answer to question on April 1st, 8:30 PM. It's not alot of talk, last I knew 2 weeks ago we had a little over 50% of the cards returned and we need about 65% before we can go to the NLRB and have a "secret ballot vote".
I'm just a C.E. like you but if you would like to know more call Steve Smith at 978-302-3690
392 people we are about 30 cards short.
Don't let us loose this thing. Find the card under the old pile of mail. Put it in an envelope and mail it to the return address on the envelope.
If you want to make shit and be treated like shit don't do anything. Soon we will be outsourced just like Canada and you'll be making even less then shit. Shit will laugh at you.
If you’re just a kiss ass call your manager and tell him we are 30 cards short thanks to your efforts. Then assume your position back under his desk.
Moments of Free Labor...
Cheadle's implied expectation and public recognition of a CE working off the clock and for free is unethical and blatenly illegal.
Go here and search "NCR"
http://www.justia.com/index.html
Blogging is not the only thing that has been done to stop this.
I overheard our FOD telling an RTSS to be prepared to go to New York if they (New York) go on strike.
Tired of upper management causing excessive wasted time in the field. Is someone working on Phila area or must I do it?
nice lawsuit steve u would like this
Another card from Texas is signed and in the mail. Come on guys we need everyone to contact Kitty at Kitty_Prouse@ibew.org or call her at 409-882-4686. She answers her e-mail promptly and will get a card out to you ASAP. Let everyone know.
Texas and other area's, whenever possible try and provide the organizer with an ADDRESS LIST for your region. That's what was done here in New England so all CE's received a card, now we need to have them send them in!! Come on guys & gals, send them in!!
RTSS = Anti Strike Squad or ASS.
To all the RTSS....Don't even think about coming to NYC if there is a strike!!!
Hello all, There has been a class action lawsuit files against NCR for missed wages and so forth....dealing with lunches and so on.....The lawsuit has started in California. I have a copy of it and sent it to Steve Smith to maybe post it on the blog for all to review. It's to large to paste in the blog. Here is some info if you would like to look it up on the internet somehow, it is public record. I have a hard copy sent to me via e-mail.
The lawyers having suit against NCR are as follows: Robert W Thompson and Charles S Russell. The telephone number for them is 714-730-5700. The office address is 111 Fashion Lane, Tustin California 92780.
Hope this info helps.
Interesting to see that for 80+ years NYC union guys still think that a baseball bat is the way to be a good union member.
CE's interested in the class action suit filed for alleged FLSA (Fair Labor Standards Act)violations and to attempt to recover unpaid wages ect..
You can contact Matthew Dameron
1-800-714-0360
Nice to see CEO thinks cutting wages, and benifits is a good moral maker.
If New York has had a UNION for 80 plus years, they are smart. More than half the RTSS will not go to New York, just the ass kissing ones. NCR will spend more on police protection for these scum balls, than the it would cost to just pay the CE's.
Good Luck New York
TECH ALERT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NCR is dumping the analog GPS systems that they had US install for the newest ALL DIGITAL GPS system from what I have been told the 750 area will be the first to test drive this new system.
Now isn't that special!
No raises and Cutting CE's pay.
For what?? So we can pay for new GPS units for them to see our every move.
Of course, Control tower made such great use of the last ones right?
If we were one united work force, we could just refuse to have them installed.
In a perfect world....Maybe one day...
wow...New GPS..that's interesting. Do the ce's still have the in their vehicles? We here in NEW YORK had them pulled. Maybe its time to drive our own vehicles.
We do not use weapons here in NY. We are lovers not fighters. We will out smart all you dumb ass RTSS's with our minds.
And I would publicly thank the rest of the CE's that support us here in NY. We are behind the cause 100%. All the rest of you including union busters, OD's, FOD's, TM's and non interested parties deserve everything you get in the years to come.
Here's something you folks might enjoy.
The Plan
In the beginning, there was The Plan.
And then came the Assumptions.
And the Assumptions were without form,
And the Plan was without substance.
And darkness was upon the face of the Workers.
And they spoke among themselves saying, "It's a crock of shit, and it stinks."
And the Workers went unto their Territory Managers and said,
"This is a pail of crap, and we cannot live with the smell."
And the TM’s went unto their Operations Directors saying,
"It is a container of excrement, and it is very strong, such that none may abide by it."
And the OD’s went unto their Area Directors saying,
"It is a vessel of fertilizer, and none may abide its strength."
And the Area Directors spoke among themselves, saying to one another,
"It contains that which aids plant growth, and it is very strong."
And the Area Directors went to the Vice Presidents saying unto them,
"It promotes growth, and it is very powerful."
And the Vice Presidents went to the CEO saying unto him,
"This new plan will actively promote growth and vigor of the company
with very powerful effects."
And the CEO looked upon the Plan and said that it was good,
And the Plan became Policy. And the Policy was put into practice.
And this is how Shit Happens.
Early_Outer_05
* * T H E - P L A N * *
The only "plan" (conspiracy) that NCR had was to obtain a 7% profit by "screwing" their" CEs.
We all know that this is unsustainable. Look for selling of stock options (Chris Wallace)
and rapid exiting from NCR by these "forces of EVIL" (Leadership? Team)
Hi All, just need to get the word out to anyone in the Washington State area and Oregon. We need your support. Dont be left out in the cold when the IBEW goes to the NLRB. If you know anyone in these areas, call them and ask them to get a card from Larrick McDowell.
He can be reached at 415-515-7921 or Larrick_McDowell@ibew.org I would hate to see them left out of the voting process.
Thanks Hershall
hey 750 whats your problem! you guys got no balls?? Get that fucking card
Can someone help out a confused country boy? I heard from an old buddy up north that NCR is gonna get the Anti-Union law firm of Jackson Lewis to head the negotiations with their teamster CE's this June. Bear with me here..Jackson Lewis, who teaches courses to Companies on "How to stay Union-free"...is gonna dance with the Teamsters who have represented NCR CE's successfully in NY for 32 YEARS...!!!! Now I'm no rocket Scientist...but ain't that kinda like ASKING THE FRENCH FOR ADVICE ON HOW TO LICK THE GERMANS.....?????!!!!!!
Did anyone else in the Northeast or elsewhere get a Department of Labor questioner asking about NCR's business practices, mainly if we take breaks & lunch's?
also, GPS in our vehicals have been disabled since March 1st. It is true. Manager know but were told not to tell ce's. Ask one and see how they respond? Will they tell you the truth? It will be their "Moment of Truth"!
mine is disabled been unpugged since it was put in told tm dont even know where it is at see attenas on dash but that is it
my how miles rack up when nt being monitored
New York CE's are lion-hearted, organized, skilled, passionate, bold,courageous and strong-willed. Get your dignity back and sign those cards....Go Union
WOW! After 911 the NYFDs WHO were celebrity.
Now it is the NYCEs!
HEY GIRLS. OVER HERE!
I guess getting the union in may take longer than we thought. Don't give up; courageous victories don't happen over night.
It would be great if it happens when NY and Jersey started negotiating their new contract. That’s only 2 months away.
If NY and Jersey strike I hope they picket out front of Bill Nutjobs house in the Hamptons. His snobby rich-ass neighbors will hate him more then we do.
DO WE HAVE TO SHAVE OUR BODIES AND LEAVE BEHIND MARTYR VIDEOS (like the Suicide Bombers)
REMEMBER 911 & REMEMBER 701
* * Since YOU brought it up * *
We will be on STRIKE in July '08 and we would expect your Solidarity and Support throughout our struggle with NCR.
All Unions (and potential Unioners) should Respect & Honor the struggles of their Peers (who understand our cause)
Our Fight is YOUR Fight!
When WE win, YOU win!
Worker Dignity is Paramount!
Corporate GREED is Despicable!
Don't worry my brother there in NY. If you are forced to strike. I will stand by you. I will rally the rest of the of the future union members to walk with you. we are fighting for all the same freedoms that you already practice. we all want the same. Good luck and God bless.
To all that feel the same. PLEASE RESPOND. Lets show all the NCR Management onlooker on this blog that we mean BUSINESS and we are not afraid if them. Lets show NCR that we the Lowly CE are serious about Joining a COLLECTIVE BARGAINING UNIT...Good Luck Teamsters..Let Go IBEW..
Will refuse to cross lines. Help out in areas that send CE'S from CT.
From South Jersey. We will refuse to cross lines also.. Go Teamster..We are here for you!!
"I guess getting the union in may take longer than we thought. - April 6, 2008 3:02 PM"
Unionism is a "state of mind". (YOU already are a Union) This BLOG makes that possible.
Don't do the RTSS work when the go to NYC!
Don't do extra work while they screw your Peers!
Make you feelings known to Management!
SEND IN THOSE CARDS!
GET ANGRY!
30% LESS FOR 30$ LESS!
SEND A TEXT MESSAGE!
30% LESS FOR 30% LESS!
SEND AN EMAIL!
30% LESS FOR 30% LESS!
SPRAY IT ON THE PARTS LOCKER!
30% LESS FOR 30% LESS!
GET A TATOO!
30% LESS FOR 30% LESS!
SEND A NUTI-GRAM!
30% LESS FOR 30% LESS!
WHAT A MESS!
30% LESS FOR 30% LESS!
Hey! This could be our Battle Cry!
30% Less for 30% Less!
SOUNDS LIKE A WALMART SLOGAN,
30% Less for 30% Less!
BLOG it to Chris Wallace!
30% less for 30% less.
(she likes that stuff)
30%< = 30%<
Get a CINTAS "T" Shirt!
Front: 30% Less for 30% Less!
Back: NCR SUCKS!
So. California will stand by your Side NYC.. Take NCR to the bank. We will not cross!!! We will not do the RTSS work. I hear NYC can be a scary place for 1st timers and strangers. Beware RTSS.
I won't cross the picket line
I wont cross either...Keep the support coming. Use this blog. Help get the union online. From Georgia..
(392) The Southeast is with you NYC and Northern Jersey. God is with you. God Bless.
Will NY back us when its our turn ?
Anonymous said...
Will NY back us when its our turn ?
I am not sure why you thought you needed to ask?
THE ANSWER WAS, IS, AND, ALWAYS WILL BE YES!!!
Anonymous said...
Will NY back us when its our turn ?
What the hell are you thinking.. Of Course NYC will back you 100 percent.
we are getting pressure now that if we don't join we will be terminated when ncr goes union. If any of you communists knew what a nazi was you would not use it so lightly. I was leaning heavily to the union but now that the scare tactics are starting... not from ncr which I did expect and still do, I am growing less atracted to the union. So far no one has said what the union is going to try and do. Can anyone on this blog be resonable instead of just complaining about ncr? I have worked 4 other companies (2 major companies)and unfortuanatly ncr has been the most fair with medical and retirement combined. Times are changing and ncr CEs missed it a long time ago when they stopped CE3 position years ago this guy just finished it off.
To the guy above who is talking about scare tactics by the union...
I am not sure what you are talking about...I think you are a little paranod..You are mistaking the power of suggestion and an over zelist group of guys for something worse. Step back and take a deep breathe. Look at what the union has done for the CEs in NY/NJ. That's all we want. Do not get side tracked by some guys that might be thinking out loud. Sometimes your mind their mouths get the better of you..The union will and should be good for us...STAY THE COURSE. Thanks
power of suggestion hmmm "if you are a real american join the union and don't be a nazi"... I just quoted one text message... where was the suggestion? "don't be left without a job when we go union" again suggestion? maybe kill a muslim to be an american will be next... only a suggestion for a homosidal moron. Violence and threats are not a civalized way of influencing people. Again I don't mind if we unionize, but no one has said what will we gain. ce3 is gone, has been for years in non union areas they just finally cut ce3 pay. What direction are we going? we are union hear so roar... now what?
Yes, I realize idiots join unions too, but since the messages are amonimous, I can only assume since the term nazi is so freely used on the blog it is from the union
OK I upset the guy sending me that crap enough that he came forward to me like a man...
sorry for the last crappy blog but I was p*&*&ed
so can anyone tell me what the union will do besides complain that the ceo is a jerk?
I asked awhile ago and someone accused me of being a corporate spy...
please just tell me something besides ce3 is gone and the union will demand they restucture again
please
oh yeah and what has ncr promised? someone said ncr is making promises so we won't unionize I haven't heard crap from anyone except a "overzelous" person that ..anyway
OK Guys, We are trying to organize a Union, WE DO NOT use scare tactics by threats, I have sent out text messages asking for the support of our fellow co-workers and telling them not to beleive NCR promise's. Yes NCR will make promises and lie to you. Just remember YOU are just a number in a numbers driven company. We want to make NCR a respected company again. Dont you think our customers have noticed how much NCR has gone down ever since the sent rework to over seas companies or hoe about the help desk (INDIA)
There are a whole lot of problems that need to be fixed. But we have to start here by voting for the union. I'm sorry if I offended anyone but the truth is the truth.
Hershall
SOMEONE ASKED....please just tell me something besides ce3 is gone and the union will demand they restucture again
please...
OK I WILL TELL YOU WHAT THE TEAMSTERs HAVE DOnE FOR ME...
They have for the last 20+ years have gotten me a raise even when the company has cut youer pay. They have gotten me an increase in avail pay while all non union offices have stayed the same for years. I have 4 hours admin time scheduled each week so that I can do things like payroll, expenses, timesheets, email, and surplus on company time and not my time. I get down time after I work any 12hours in a 24hours day. That 8 hrs off with pay. Do not have to work both Sat and Sun. one or the other. They must give me 2 weeks notice if there is a shift change and its shift work must be rotated. Still have personal use of company vehicles. And this is only a small percentage of the benefits. There is a small insurance policy given to me becacuse of membership. Also an additional accidental death and dismemberment policy. How about representation if needed. Job security. The list goes on. Please excuse all the typos.
If any of you communists knew what a Nazi was you would not use it so lightly.
Hey GIRLY-MAN you read enough of this blog to find the words Greed Nazi. IN ALL THAT READING YOU COULD NOT FIGURE OUT WHY WE NEED A UNION?
Don't be scared out of your panties moron one is going to hurt you.
The girly-man is probably Bill Nutjob. He doesn't like be called what he is. A GREED NAZI.
What a pussy.
To anonymous poster who posted...
"oh yeah and what has ncr promised? someone said ncr is making promises so we won't unionize I haven't heard crap from anyone except a "overzelous" person that ..anyway"
I can understand your feelings with all the information and frustration being blogged. I will answer some of your questions.
The union will attempt to keep you from becoming me. I was forced out 5 years ago from a job I loved and a company I put my heart and soul into. For my efforts I was rewarded with being reduced to the equivalent of a CE1 and the pay cut to go with it. Luckily I left and have found a better life. The union would not have allowed this to occur.
Promises.. NCR promised me (and the installation team) raises, bonuses, and advancement potential IF we "brought in the numbers" for NCR. The team did so by shifting our time to meet the installs, split time (4 hours in the morning and 4 in the evening), and to many concessions to mention. When the time came for our (the teams) payout we were told "we were never promised the above just suggested it might occur". 12 members of the team all heard the same thing. 12 members were all duped. Why, because we believed. WRONG, we should have had them put it in writing.
More? How about the promise of bonus money but changing the rules at the last minute to lower the payout? This occurred (approx) 7 years ago.
More? How about the promise of "do your job well and you will be rewarded". I (and many others) was rewarded for our efforts with a boot to the butt.
More? How about the repeated “this was a one time thing (cuts), now we have the best of the best of the best left and we can move forward. Then, more cuts. (9 years ago).
Do you see a pattern? How many times do you have to get your face slapped before you put up your arms to protect yourself?
What will the union do? Simple, as a union you will be part of a group and stand as one. The old adage of “together we stand, divided we fall” is very true in this instance. The union does not run you, just the opposite, YOU run the union. YOU are the union. There will always be people who get over zealous about their beliefs and this is understandable. Some of the posting people have been put down for so many years they are fed up and vocal/passionate about their views. This does not make them monsters or thugs just passionate about their views. I wish the union was at NCR to help me when I was being demoted for doing my job.
You have no say at this time when NCR will single you out for doing your job....then demote you for your loyalty. Can't happen.....just ask Oncewas (me).
Have a great day….
Oncewas
Oncewas tells it like is.
Another card sent in from Indiana today..Vote Union
what is the northeast status????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
We're very close in the Northeast. We need about 15 more cards to go to the NLRB, then we can have a "Secret Ballot Vote"! Talk to your co-workers and have them SEND IN THOSE CARDS!!
Northwest Oregon & Washington we need more support,
Your Union Dues Buys YOU:
1. Seniority Protection.
2. Dispute Resolution.
3. Contract Negotiations.
4. Benefit Enforcement.
5. Solidarity Strength.
"P"-ower
"R"-espect
"I"-ndividuality
"D"-ignity
"E"-quality
Don't listen to antiunion "scare-tactics" about Nazis, Communists, etc.
Companies (like NCR) all belong to "organizations" (like NAM) that use "lobbyists" to buy their way!
Unions are the Worker's "organization" that made America GREAT! - DON'T WAIT, JOIN NOW!
Hello all, There has been a Class Action Lawsuit filed against NCR for missed wages and so forth dealing with lunches, admin time and so on. The lawsuit has started in California. I have a copy of it and sent it to Steve Smith to maybe post it on the blog for all to review. It's to large to paste in the blog.
Call the Lawyer representing this case, Matt Dameron at 816-714-7137 for more information.
Runzheimer, Wheels, Code of Conduct, Accenture, Outsourcing, Knowledge Transfer, Job Elimination, Jackson-Lewis, etc.
Google THEM!
NCR didn't invent them. They just joined the "organization" that sponsors them!
YOU NEED A WORKER'S ORGANIZATION!
YOU NEED A UNION!
jOIN NOW!
I think we should concentrate on getting the union. I know a lot of individuals want a class action and we all more than likely could benefit from it, but I also feel it will take our eye off the ball. Lets get one thing done before we try and do another. Both our important but I feel the organizing will be more important in the long run. Class action may get you some but union will keep what we have.
That's just my opinion.
Talk to your coworkers get them to call and get their cards and more importantly SEND THEM BACK IN!!!!!!!
DOES NO GOOD TO GET THEM AND HOLD ON TO THEM!!!
Let's get this thing moving!!!!
if we strike in ny and any of you scabs try to fix stuff for ncr I will break your legs. Ncr has already made arrangements to have former ncr retirees help out if we strike. I will not stand for it and neither will you. bunch of nazi pussies
The above is not in teamsters or any other union. We don't make threats. It's either Bill Nutjob or one of his boy friends.
if we strike in ny and any of you scabs try to fix stuff for ncr I will break your legs. Ncr has already made arrangements to have former ncr retirees help out if we strike. I will not stand for it and neither will you. bunch of nazi pussies....
THIS CREEP IS NOT A TEAMSTER...ITS A UNION BUSTER PRETENDING TO BE A TEAMSTER.. WE THE TEAMSTERS HAVE FAITH IN OUR FELLOW NON UNION CO-WORKERS NOT TO CROSS..BESIDES..DONT YOU THINK IT WOULD BE IN OUR BEST INTEREST NOT TO MAKE PUBLIC THREATS?
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT A TEAMSTER MIGHT SAY:::
Its time to organize!! We all need protection, representation, and ONE VOICE. This should have been done long ago. We would have never seen this rape of the work force. Remember its never to late so start now. Its the only way to return this company to true greatness!!!
CIRCUIT CITY IS GOING OUT OF BUSINESS AND HERE IS THE REASON WHY...Tell me if this sounds familiar...
All analysts who cover the company blame its current woes on Schoonover's decision last March to fire 3,400 of Circuit City's most experienced employees. At the time the company said those workers were making too much money and could be replaced with cheaper workers. Analysts say the move led to a devastating loss of morale and a decline in customer service.
I have also read the HOME DEPOT is practicing the same MICRO MANAGEMENT and will soon suffer the same plight..NCR will soon follow suit. First the cut in pay.. 2nd NCR was hoping for a massive exidose.. But It has not happened. They were looking to fill all those spots with entry level low paying jobs...
WE CAN PREVENT THIS CARNAGE. WE MUST VOTE IN THE UNION!!! PLEASE..WE MUST NOT FAIL.. IF YOU HAVE NOT SENT IN YOUR CARDS YET, PLEASE DO SO AS SOON AS YOU CAN. I AM JUST A CE JUST LIKE THE REST OF YOU WHO HAPPENES TO LOVE WHAT I DO. I REALLY DO NOT WANT TO LEAVE. WE MUST DO WHAT WE CAN TO MAKE THINGS RIGHT AROUND HERE..
ALL YOU CEs WHO WERE PROMOTED TO RTSS, YOU MUST CONSIDER THE CONSEQUENSES IF YOU COME TO NYC IF THERE IS A STRIKE. IF THE COMPANY SUCCEEDS IN PUSHING THE UNION OUT AND PREVENTS THE REST OF THE NATION FROM GOING UNION, THE COMPANY WILL SOON PUT THE RTSS' IN THE STREET NEXT. THE WRITING IS ON THE WALL. WE ARE ALL MUCH BETTER THAN WHAT NCR THINKS OF US. REMEMBER THAT THE UNION HAS NOT CREATE THIS MONSTER. NCR HAS. THEY CONTINUE TO MAKE MONEY OFF OUR BLOOD, SWEAT AND TEARS. THE FEET IN THE STREET IS A MAJOR PART OF WHY CUSTOMERS COME TO NCR. LETS NOT LET THEM DESTROY THAT!! PLEASE STAY THE COURSE AND THANK YOU.
Still NO activity in the South Jersey Philadelphia Area. What is wrong here ?
Still NO activity in the South Jersey Philadelphia Area. What is wrong here ?
Still NO activity in the South Jersey Philadelphia Area. What is wrong here ?
Washington State and Notheren Oregon we need your support. If you need a card sent to you contact Larrick_McDowell@ibew.org and he will send you one in a perpaid envelope so you can send it back. If you already have, thank you for your support. Dont forget to call you co-workers and tell them if they dont know about this blog or how to get a card
THE REPRESENTATION ELECTION PROCESS
Section 7 (U.S. Code Title 29, Chapter 7, § 157):
"Employees shall have the right to self-organization, to form, join, or assist labor
organizations, to bargain collectively through representatives of their own choosing, and to
engage in other concerted activities for the purpose of collective bargaining ..."
HOW DO WE START?
The first thing we do is to talk with each other. In the end, it will be us, the employees, who
will negotiate with the company for our union contract. After the contract is signed, it will
again be up to us to make sure that it is enforced. The effectiveness of any union hinges
upon the involvement of a majority of the work force.
Volunteer to serve on a voluntary organizing committee. This committee will be a crosssection
of the entire bargaining unit. The committee's job will be to educate and get
feedback from fellow workers, and when the workers are ready, get them to sign
authorization cards. The committee will probably hold group meetings with fellow
employees to make sure everyone understands and is educated as to their rights.
WE NEED TO KNOW
Educate yourself:
· What are our rights are under the National Labor Relations Act (NLRA)?
· What is the election process,
· How does a union work?
· What's in a union contract?
. . . and any other questions that we together might have.
2
WHAT CAN WE EXPECT FROM THE COMPANY?
􀂃 Captive Audiences Meetings
􀂃 Intimidation
􀂃 Innuendos
􀂃 UNTRUTHS...
Just to mention a few!
THE ELECTION PROCESS
Section 9 of the National Labor Relations Act (NLRA) requires that 30% of the employees
sign cards authorizing the union to represent them before the union can ask for recognition
from the company.
1. When a majority of cards (70% of the bargaining unit) have been secured,
the IBEW will ask the company to recognize our union. (Even though the law
only requires 30%, it is wise not to ask for recognition with less then 70%.
We don't want to waste our time if we don't think we can be successful.)
2. If the company should refuse such recognition, the cards may then be taken
to the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) where the union files a petition
for an election.
3. The Board then sets a date when we vote -- by secret ballot -- for the union.
4. We vote -- in secret -- "Yes" for union representation, "No" for no union
representation.
5. A simple majority wins.
6. The Board then certifies the union -- and soon thereafter contract
negotiations begin with management for higher wages, job security and --
improved working conditions.
Last, after the NLRB certifies the union, we set down with the employer to negotiate a union
contract. Under the NLRA, the company must negotiate with the union in good faith for
wages, benefits, and working conditions!
THE REPRESENTATION ELECTION PROCESS - April 10, 2008 12:13 AM
GREAT STUFF!
Also check out these sites for information:
http://www.unionist.com/
http://www.biglabor.com/tip.php
Hello all, There has been a Class Action Lawsuit filed against NCR for missed wages and so forth dealing with lunches, admin time and so on. The lawsuit has started in California. I have a copy of it and sent it to Steve Smith to maybe post it on the blog for all to review. It's to large to paste in the blog.
Call the Lawyer representing this case, Matt Dameron at 816-714-7137 for more information.
C'mon everybody..Lets get the cards in. I want to vote already.. If we get those cards in maybe we can start our negotiations when the Teamsters Start some time in early May. We will have alot of bargaining power. It will work. Please mail those cards in now. It will be just fine. And you all can sleep at night again.
Hello all, There has been a Class Action Lawsuit filed against NCR for missed wages and so forth dealing with lunches, admin time, NCRU Training and so on. The lawsuit has started in California. I have a copy of it and sent it to Steve Smith to maybe post it on the blog for all to review. It's to large too paste in the blog.
Call the Lawyer representing this case, Matt Dameron at 816-714-7137 for more information.
Class Action Law Suits!
30% Paycuts!
Job Eliminations!
Corporate Greed!
Nazi Tactics!
WHAT KIND OF COMPANY DO YOU WORK FOR?
GREAT LABOR QUOTE:
Labor quote for the week of April 7, 2008
"The Industrial Union grasps the principle:
no government, no organization;
no organization, no cooperative labor;
no cooperative labor, no abundance for all
without arduous toil, hence no freedom.”
--Daniel DeLeon, American socialist leader, writer, 1913
Thanks for the "Link"
http://www.biglabor.com/tip.php
Q. Ever wonder WHY Politicians seek their "support" from both Corporate & Labor sources?
A. They are both powerful opposing forces that shape our future freedoms! (Corporations are winning)
With only 8% of the "private sector" still organized, the Labor Movement and Dinosaurs have more in common.
HELP!
Are you worth what you started at to the company today? Very easy to check. The Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) has a great tool. It is an inflation calculator. Enter what you started at and compare it to today's salary. Which is more? It works in reverse too. No smoke and mirrors. It reflects the buying power of your salary adjusted for inflation. Does not include any changes in benefits, only your salary. Have fun:
http://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/cpicalc.pl
http://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/cpicalc.pl
It shows that I make 10% less than what I started at in 1985!!!!!! I can't afford anything now, not a car payment, not cable tv, no vacation, can't afford to contribute to the 401k, nothing, all I do is try to survive day to day!!!!! While Nutjob flies around in the jet we bought him, buring $6 a gallon jet fuel!
Well Im dissapointed, I was told March 25th i would be getting my card. Its 4-13 still no card!!!!
I guess this was all a pipe dream:(
Nuti the Nazi wants you!
Well Im dissapointed, I was told March 25th i would be getting my card. Its 4-13 still no card!!!!
I guess this was all a pipe dream:(
Hey, call the IBEW in your area again.
Please Guys. We need to "strike while the iron is hot". Get the union going and maybe we can negotiate while NYC is the table!!
Lets do it.
If you don't have your card yet call them again....
Ask for them to send you extra and give them to your coworkers.
I got mine pretty quick and got them to my area.
Lets make this happen and stop the madness!!!!!!
What a chaotic, disorganized circle jerk you've got going on here. The company doesn't worry about you organizing the field when they read what's on this blog. They just fall over laughing. It's like watching the Keystone Cops.
hey everyone....just want to post some "facts" here. Look what corp. greed and these fat cat bastards have done to our once great company...and they will contuine to drive it into the ground if we let them! http://money.cnn.com/lists/companies/NCR.html?symb=NCR
can someone please explain to me where the company is losing money so that they feel the need to cut my pay 20% ????? http://money.cnn.com/quote/financials/financials.html?symb=NCR&sid=18258&report=1&period=annual
I WROTE A GREAT ENTRY AND IT DUMPED! DAG GUM IT!
STOP THE BULL. THIS WAS AND CAN STILL BE A GREAT PLACE TO WORK. MOST OF US STILL WANT TO BE PART OF NCR. WE ARE STILL HERE AFTER ALL THE BS ARENT WE?
IF YOU THINK LIFE IS GREAT THEN FINE. YOUR ARE A NEW PERSON OR A MANAGER. BOTH HAVE A GREAT LIFE. YOUR PAY IS THE SAME ONE LOW AND ONE HIGHER. IT WILL NOT CHANGE. MANAGEMENT WILL CONTINUE TO GET INCREASES AND THEY WILL GIVE THE LOWER CLASS CE'S WHAT THEY DESERVE (IN THERE EYES).
MAYBE IF YOUR NUMBERS ARE GREAT AND YOU WORK ABOVE AND BEYOND YOU WILL REAP A MONSTER 2%. BUT DID WE MENTION HEALTHCARE IS RISING 4.3% THIS YEAR. SO SORRY GRASSHOPPER, YOU ARE NOW BEHIND THE CURVE BY 1.3%.
NOT ALL IS LOST HOWEVER<<<<<
FOR YOUR DEDICATION TO THE JOB AND YOUR HARD WORK THROUGHOUT THE YEARS WE AS MANAGEMENT WILL GET A 50+++++++ PAY INCREASE BECAUSE WE ARE DRIVING THE BOAT THAT YOU UNFORTUNATELY ONLY ROW ON.
HAVE WE TOLD YOU LATELY HOW MUCH WE APPRECIATE HOW GOOD A JOB YOU DO DAY IN AND DAY OUT....SORRY IT CAN BE MORE BUT NEXT TIME I GET POINTS I WILL SEND SOME YOUR WAY SO YOU CAN GET THAT $30 HIBACHI. IT WILL COME IN HANDY WHEN THEY TURN YOUR ELECTRIC OFF CAUSE YOU FINALLY MADE IT TO A CE2 AND NOW THEY ARE CUTTING THAT ALSO DOWN TO GOD KNOWS WHERE.
IT'S SIMPLE STAY THE COURSE AND DWINDLE OR TRY AND HELP YOURSELF AND YOUR COWORKERS...
GET A CARD..SEND IT IN AND VOTE TO HELP YOURSELF AND ALL THE CE'S IN THE FIELD!!!!!!!!
Anonymous said...
What a chaotic, disorganized circle jerk you've got going on here. The company doesn't worry about you organizing the field when they read what's on this blog. They just fall over laughing. It's like watching the Keystone Cops
Hey MR COMPANY MAN
Just wait and see what happens when the Union is voted in. Then we will see who the joke is!! Dont even think about looking for help when your boss bends you over and ask you to pass the VASOLINE. Call me when it happens. I'll bring me BIG FOAM #1 FINGER AND CHEER HIM ON. You Frigen BACK STABBER! You deserve everything you get..
As far as the company not worrying, You cant be further from the truth. The reality is the are very scared. No company that rapes their crew like NCR has wants a union. Then guys like Bill Nuti will have to stop. Dont you think that NCR now realizes what they did was open the flood gates to there down fall. That got away with it once because we let them. They tried again but now it will bite them in the ass. Like you, AN ASS. Thought I'd throw that in. They started and we will finish. And dig tjis. I am not going down without a fight. I will fight dirty if needed, Bill is no different then the rest of these CEOs that come in and screw the company and then look for that golden parachute. Well Ill cut the parachute strings before he jump.
I think it is a shame it has come to this. After 28 years with the company, I now have to worry about making my mortgage payment. I have never seen a workforce more demoralized. Even Chris Wallaces's blog site is getting very little attention, because nobody even cares, especially the CE's. Our wonderful leadership team has proven one thing: you cant trust a single word that comes out of their mouths. Cheatles cd was thrown in the garbage upon arrival, knowing it would be a bunch of crap, spun to make himself look good, while stabbing the Ce's in the back. I see we have made some major customer wins.. Thats great, now we get to run even more calls for less money. Their logic escapes me. I wonder how they will explain to their new customers WHY no one is fixing their equipment when the workers vote union and walk out. When I tell my customers about the ce pay cuts, and the management's raises (141%???), they are amazed at the greed of NCR. They understand how much time and effort we put in to keep their equipment running, and also understand the low moral. Just keep sending those union carsds out, and write to your local newspapers and radio stations about what this company has done, and is doing to its loyal employees. We are looking into a class action age discrimination lawsuit in our state. I would advise others to do the same. Vote Union, and call every CE you know to do the same.
Let grab NCR nutsack..I want this Union up and running. Now is the perfect time. We can come to the table with NY/NY this summer.
Guess what I heard from an internal associate that supports NCR infastructure. Bill Nuti was home in NY and his laptop needed service. He decided to fly in a ce from Dayton rather than letting a Union ce work on his laptop. He is such a non-player. He will get his balls handed to him when the Union is voted in..F@#k Him!!! That hippocrit. I wonder when he gets his car serviced or needs an electriction in his South Hampton beach house, does he ask if their nin the union first? Dick Head
nuti sucks said...
Just NCR FYI,
If you are planning to join, make sure no one knows, unlike me, I tried to let my coworkers join. They all refused, I still haven't joined. One of the team members was nice enough to let the mgr know, so i've got a 60 day review on my performance time. some crap, with no proof of any customer complains or work completed. Oh, well, looks like i'll be looking for another job soon.
sry, putting anonymous don't want to loose the 60 days and be terminated tomorrow.
Sounds like a manager trying to scare everyone. Everyone here is joining the union, I can't believe it's not like that everywhere.
IF YOU REALLY FEEL THAT YOU ARE BEING TARGETED BY THE COMPANY, THAN YOU HAVE A LAWSUIT. IF YOU HAVE A GOOD SERVICE RECORD, MEANING MORE THAN THE REQUESTED CLOSED CALL(4.2 CALLS PER DAY), YOUR SURPLUS IS GOOD SHAPE, AND YOUR LOCA LOOKS GOOD, WELL THEN YOU NEED TO CONTACT A LAWYER. YOURE BEING TARGETED FOR ORGINIZING. ITS YOU CIVIL RIGHT FOR REPRESENTATION. START COLLECTING EVIDENCE AND CALL A LAWYER.
The Union is the united life-giving voice we need, illuminating the way to the future.
Union-union-union-union.It's time!
We've only just begun to fight.
CE's are: purposeful, gifted, bold, thinking, good-willed and being raped by NCR. What has NCR done for you lately? Strong sell.
every second of every day I think about how much I hate Nutjob nuti
Only an IDIOT tells their customers of internal turmoil. All you'll accomplish is to show your customer that you cannot be trusted. Then when the union vote fails and that customer finds someone else to service their equipment you'll be on the street with your tin cup. Doesn't it bother you to be stupid? Didn't anyone ever explain to you about how you never take your problems to your customers? Even though we all hated "charm school" didn't you pay attention at least a little? That's why you need a union, you're ignorant.
Hello all, There has been a Nationwide Class Action Lawsuit filed against NCR for missed wages and so forth dealing with lunches, admin time, NCRU Training and so on. The lawsuit has started in California. I have a copy of it and sent it to Steve Smith to maybe post it on the blog for all to review. It's too large too paste in the blog.
Call the Lawyer representing this case, Matt Dameron at 816-714-7137 for more information.
Please give the lawsuit a rest. Lets get the union together then move towards regaining lost time etc...
It is more important to get the union movement in the picture. Once we are organized then deal with class action issues. If you sue and win maybe you will get a small check after years of waiting.
If we don't get the union turmoil will run wild even more than it is now and the job won't be worth squat!!!
I realize people feel cheated for the time lost but think in the long term not just in the here and now. That is one reason things are the way they are right now. The ivory tower bean counters think of right now not down the road.
Get your card sign it and lets move this forward!!
A bote bot the lawsuit
1. if the class has been certified Ncr has to release employee records so they can be noified. Worse case is the lawyer if he had half a mind woulg hit them with a supenoa to get the info.
There are also otherthingsthatcan be done through courts in regards to getting the info.
2. Thecase may not even go through the meeting stage and also 26f rule meetings
3. Even if this does happen it goes to trial thelawyers get bulk of $ due to there fees.
4 this case is also going to be a long drawn matter a lot of facetsand take upwards of 2.5 to complete.
5 the company also has the right under the law to appeal to court of appeals
6.I beleive we need to concentrate on our core issue and information here Union.
this is something we can control now and we don't have to worry bout any damm lawyer making a mis step
WE control THIS, We have A chance To have A Voice
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lets vote now...
"Only an IDIOT tells their customers of internal turmoil. All you'll accomplish is to show your customer that you cannot be trusted. Then when the union vote fails and that customer finds someone else to service their equipment you'll be on the street with your tin cup. Doesn't it bother you to be stupid? Didn't anyone ever explain to you about how you never take your problems to your customers? Even though we all hated "charm school" didn't you pay attention at least a little? That's why you need a union, you're ignorant.
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Only a lying company shill would say something so stupid!
"Only an IDIOT tells their customers of internal ...."
Its pretty easy to see who the company buttsuckers are. Our customers NEED to know, that their experienced, loyal and highly trained CE's are being treated like trash by NCR. I dont work in a huge area, but I do know a great many of my customers personally. They know me and trust me to keep their equipment running, in spite of NCR constant roadblocks. They need to know about the cheap workforce they may soon be getting, with its poorly trained, poorly compensated, and poorly motivated workers. I know they are not happy about it. I am sure it will leave most customers with not quite the warm and fuzzy they are used to. It makes me wonder if they company saw this firestorm coming. Looks like just one more of NCR's poorly conceived, badly planned and horribly implemented plans to screw the CE's again. I hope the board of directors know of all of this, because once the media picks up on it, (and they are being contacted) there may be a few red faces at NCR. So before you start calling people idiots, look at yourself, If you ever trust NCR leadership to do the right thing by their employees, YOU are the idiot. If you EVER again believe one word that comes out of the mouth of our leadership team, you are beyond an idiot. Vote union, or look for something else, because NCR doesnt want you here.
If you company spys think that this blog details everything that is going on in this Union Movement, then you truly are the Stupid ones. Also some of the posts supposedly from Ce's with the spelling and grammar errors are quite entertaining. Keep up the good work Mr. Manager.
CLASS ACTIONS ARE SWEET!
Cablevision has agreed to pay $400,000 in back wages . . . .
Wal-Mart Stores Inc. must pay $78.47 million in damages . . . .
IBM has agreed to settle the case for a total of US$65 million . . . .
IBM Settles Pension Lawsuit, plaintiffs to receive benefit of $300 million . . . .
BUT UNIONS ARE THE NEAT!
Unions organize the whole workforce so that they can act in unison (solidarity)
to accomplish workers' goals of Legal Action and Political Action AND Class Action!
International Unions have Administrative, Legal, and Media Departments
that can do all the work for you (it's called DUES ACTION).
Like Frank Sinatra sang in his classic tune "Love & Marriage"
. . . . "you can't have one without the OTHER"
I really struggle to understand the mind of a person who would
contemplate "Class Action" and condemn "Union Action" ?????
GET CRACKIN', TIME IS A WAISTIN'
"OOPS There Goes a Billion Kilo-watts Dam!"
SORRY!
That was another Frank Sinatra tune "High Hopes"
(Still relative to our predicament)
Still no word on here detailing what the union has promised us. I'm not about paying someone dues to maintain the status quo. Nothing on here so far but trash talk from angry CEs.
Just to point out a fact to the idiots that are saying the ce's that don't vote for a union will be left out,
Every ce will be invited into the union after it comes in. That is the law just as NCR can not prevent CEs from pursuing the union.
We are fighting for the company because we believe it is in NCRs best intersets to keep it's workforce standardized and happy.
Do not expect to get paid like NYC, that is much different situation. The expenses there are outragous compared to middle America. There can be changes but we must have some standard of pay for regoins though. City CEs should get more money than remote small town CEs. That is not true at this time.
Pensions are gone from most companies and healthcare is climbing everywhere, but we must ensure they keep the costs from us
If you are truely unhappy with NCR please feel free to leave. The ones that are serious about the union are because they still feel NCR can be a great company to work for again.
TO THE FOOL ABOVE FROM A SMALL CITY CE HEY YOU DAMNED IDIOT!!!!
IN SMALL TOWN USA IT COSTS MORE TO BUY GAS IT COSTS MORE TO BUY GROCERIES AND HOUSING COSTS MORE DUE TO ECONOMIES OF SCALE AND LACK OF COMPETITION SO WHATS THIS SHIT ABOUT SMALL TOWN PEOPLE SHOULD GET LESS. WHAT KIND OF IDIOT OR ASS OR YOU??
FROM A SMALL TOWNER IF THIS IS WHAT YOU WANT YOU CAN SHOVE THE UNION UP YOU ASS I'LL VOTE AGAINST IT.
IF YOU WANT FAIR AND EQUITABLE PAY FOR ALL CE'S REGARDLESS OF THEIR LOCATION THAT'S WHAT I WANT!!
We are the union and we will get whatever we want as long as we are willing to fight for it.
I want my money back and I want to be paid just like NYC and I'm ready to fight and sacrifice for it.
I'm not voting this union in so I can settle for shit. The company gives me plenty of that.
You two must be union busters, or extremly bad with your finances. If you can't make a living in a small town on $40,000 a year you are living well beyond your means. Look at the prices of houses and taxes unless 1,000,000 equals 250,000. I now realize you are thinking the next city to you is equivalent to NYC.
I didn't say a small towns ce should stay at this level (which is small), I said NYC costs more to live and they need to be paid more, for that matter most large California cities. Small town CEs should get more on call pay if they are the only ce, which should make up difference in salary.
I agree small town CEs should be paid more, but some small town ces work less than 30 in a week, to save the ncr ot.
And the ones who had their pay cut should get it back, that won't happen by ncr recreating CE3, but we can get the pay scale changed. We lost CE3 in 2003. No one wanted to fight for it then.
This is a real question.. I have heard that ce2 had to take a pay cut... How? The pay structure went up about 11.5% across the board. (again, I know most of us saw a 2%-5% raise and that is unfair when they increased it 12%). I was just curious on how CE2s took a pay cut if the most they could make was $45,800 last year. That doesn't make sense. Can any CE2 who this happened too explain?
The CE3's that were cut in 2003 deserved the cut, you weren't doing the highend work. The CE'3 that were cut this year were pulling the load for all of NCR, we were raped, and I will be leaving before the bridgepay ends, and I won't give 2 weeks notice!
ANOTHER FEW DUMB ASS REMARKS ABOVE I WAS AND AM A SMALL TOWN CE I WORK ON ALL OF THE HIGH END SHIT!!
FROM NETWORKING TO HIGH END PRINTERS SERVERS END TO END NCR OF
ALL THE UNMITIGATING GALL TO SAY ANYONE THAT WAS A LEVEL 3 DESERVED TO BE CUT!! YOU BIG CITY YOKELS MUST HAVE YOUR HEAD SO FAR UP YOUR ASS THAT YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THE CHARMED LIFE THAT YOU HAVE HAD!!
ANY TECH THAT ONLY HAD TO WORK ONE PRODUCT LINE WAS A WHOLE LOT LESS OF AN ASSET TO THE COMPANY THAN US COUNTRY BOYS THAT HAD TO CARRY THE FULL PRODUCT LINE AND TAKE CARE OF ALL CLASSES OF EQUIPMENT
AS TO LIVING IN THE COUNTRY IF I GO TO YOUR CITY I CAN BUY EVERTHING CHEAPER FROM GASOLINE TO CLOTHES AND EVEN A NEW HOUSE DUE TO THE INCREASED LEVEL OF COMPETITION IN THE CITY
BUT IT SEEMS TO ME THAT PISSED OFF CE3 MUST BE A MANAGER IN DISGUISE
IT COSTS JUST AS MUCH OR MORE TO LIVE IN THE RURAL AREA AND WHAT YOU SAY ABOUT 30 HOURS THAT'S A JOKE!!
WE'RE ON CALL AT MINIMUM EVERY OTHER WEEK AND WORK AN AVERAGE OF 60-70 HOURS A WEEK
SO QUIT WHINING ABOUT YOUR PAY IN THE CITY EITHER SIGN YOUR DAMNED UNION CARD AND GET WITH THE PROGRAM AND UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE ALL UNDERPAID AND STRUGLING TO MAKE ENDS MEET OR CARRY YOUR WHINING ASS DOWN THE ROAD
THEIR IS NOT ONE SENIOR EMPLOYEE THAT WAS A LEVEL 3 THAT DESERVED TO GET THEIR PAY CUT WE'VE MISSED 20K A YEAR FROM OUR CHECKS NOW FOR 4 YEARS AND NOW WHEN YOUR PAY GOT CUT THE WORLD ENDED
CUT THE CRAP
EQUAL PAY FOR EQUAL WORK WHERE EVER YOU ARE LOCATED THE SAME JOB SHOULD BE COMPENSATED THE SAME
FROM GOT MY 25 YEAR FRISBEE THAT WENT TO THE DUMP AS THE TRASH IT TRULY WAS
GO UNION!!!
I moved from Ca. to a small town elsewhere in the us, because NCR offered me a job to live in the middle of no where. and I only work between 30-40 a week and on call 24-7. Saving NCR OT if someone has to come from 3 hours away 4 days a week which saved the ce's on average 25 hours of OT since I started 6 years ago. I have to go there every few weeks to help the city ce's and am asked (forced to spend the night) to take calls in am. My wife can't find a real job here so we are forced to make less than we did in ca. I now live on 1.5 acres in a 4 bedroom house instead of a two bedroom apartment. Gas is cheaper by 50 cents a gallon, and the only place to shop is this crappy ass walmart.. So excuse me for thinking it is cheaper to live in a small town than a city.
Since your attention span is so short you probably didn't get to the part where I think the pay is low.
High end stuff! You are smoking crack, adic, quantum, that glasshouse crap, and cisco routers in the capacity we work on them is a joke. Please don't tell me self check out register are high end tech. Again our pay is too low, but just because we "work" on high end crap doesn't mean we have free reigns to actually repair it without god's (or the customer)approval.
It sounds like I have been treated fairly for years, now I wonder if the union is actually good for me. I have never even met a manager other than phone interviews. I assumed Everyone was treated like me and the other CE's in my imediate area
"High end stuff! You are smoking crack, adic, quantum, that glasshouse crap, and cisco routers in the capacity we work on them is a joke."
All that is easy!! Even a CE2 can work on that! How about 7780's Itran's, and OCE pagestreams?
Union busters are posting in here trying get us to argue with each other.
In a union we get the same high pay no matter where we live. It's what we negotiate on our contract.
We can get our dignity back. Sign those cards and get them in now. CE's are valuable employees, NCR pretends we are disposable. You can make a difference. Believe it!! You are all in my prayers.
Unionnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
It is sad to see so many people getting sucked in by the unionnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn who will promise you anything you want but get you nothing. What you have now and are bitching about is the best you'll ever have. If you read the Parade supplement to the Sunday paper you should realize you are now overpaid and that what you think is lousy treatment toward the service department is now standard across the industry. You who talk so big and loud about leaving need to get your walking shoes on (but, of course, you won't really be leaving because you're no good to any other company). You don't have any of the industry certifications required for hiring on somewhere else. Get used to it, you're stuck. and the only change you'll see is another deduction from your paycheck labeled union dues.
"You don't have any of the industry certifications required for hiring on somewhere else."
I have all of them from A to Z, and I will leave before my bridge pay is up!
Anonymous said...
It is sad to see so many people getting sucked in by the unionnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn who will promise you anything you want but get you nothing. What you have now and are bitching about is the best you'll ever have. If you read the Parade supplement to the Sunday paper you should realize you are now overpaid and that what you think is lousy treatment toward the service department is now standard across the industry. You who talk so big and loud about leaving need to get your walking shoes on (but, of course, you won't really be leaving because you're no good to any other company). You don't have any of the industry certifications required for hiring on somewhere else. Get used to it, you're stuck. and the only change you'll see is another deduction from your paycheck labeled union dues.
LISTEN UP ASSHOLE.. WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU KNOW...YOU HAVE A LOT OF NERVE TO MAKE A STATEMENT LIKE YOU JUST DID. GIVE ME A MINUTE ALONE WITH YOU AND ILL SHOW YOU MY CERTS..IT IS OBVIOUS YOU ARE NOT A CE. GIVE ME YOUR ADDRESS AND ILL SEND YOU SOMETHING SPECIAL. DELIEVERY..YOU MOTHER F&^%KER
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