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YOU CAN HAVE A SEAT AT THE TABLE !
YOU HAVE DEMANDED RESPECT AT THE WORKPLACE!
YOU CAN AFFECT CHANGE IN YOUR PAY, BENEFITS, AND WORKING CONDITIONS!
YOU HAVE DEMANDED RESPECT AT THE WORKPLACE!
YOU CAN AFFECT CHANGE IN YOUR PAY, BENEFITS, AND WORKING CONDITIONS!
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 254 of 254I'm a real CE, and every CE I've talked to is voting for the union
To the union buster that wrote this.. You are a complete idiot if you can not figure out that this is going to happen! Please go away and stop insulting the ce's.....
If you read back through all these posts you'll realize they're all written by the same 4 or 5 people. You don't have a union movement going on here. You just have a few illiterate, vulgar, and simple minded people sounding off. You'll also notice that the number exclamations points attached to a post is directly proportional to the ignorance of the statement. Normally, the loudmouths are the ones you cannot find when it comes to actually doing the deed. Put some thought into it. Do you really want to follow someone who cannot convert a thought into a complete and comprehensible sentence?
What do you know asshole. If your not a union buster or manager and you are a ce, well than, get ready to pay dues, because you will be out numbered. and by the way, you will be glad that you were forced to join.
Thanks for proving my points (vulgar and ignorant) so quickly. I appreciate it.
I want to start out by saying I have not recieved any information even though I sent an email after the chat on the 14th. Who can help with this? I dont want our area to miss out on anything and I am quite certain every SLM tech in this area will vote yes.
I have a perspective from both ends. I worked at a company that was union and was held back because I didnt have as much seniority as a less qualified person. I said then that I would never join another union again. My wife was told that her 12 years as a school teacher was not worth more than a new teacher. So unions have not been friends to me or my family. And do you really honestly think that someone screwing speakers into a car are worth $30 an hour???
BUT on the other hand, I have been here at NCR about 2 years. I have seen the senior techs, well qualified and loyal, get screwed over and over. Ever since I began here, I have been on call every other week. Yes I was told I would be working some overtime, but this is ridiculous. I have absolutely no personal life, and when my wife says its too much that is bad. She seems to enjoy my misery, but even she is not happy.
So is the union the answer? I think so. It is the members that will let it get out of hand, so responsible members will have to police it.
TO THE PERSON WHO POSTED
February 25, 2008 1:38 PM
Hey, you should be check the GPS's, or busting some CE's ball's. No, your on this web site insulting the people who are going to get you fired for let the UNION happen. That attitude is the one that got you block heads in the mess you are in. It is not 4 or 5, IT IS HUNDREDS. Good luck at your next job. Get use to saying "SUPER SIZE THAT
TO THE PERSON WHO POSTED
February 25, 2008 1:38 PM
Hey, you should be check the GPS's, or busting some CE's ball's. No, your on this web site insulting the people who are going to get you fired for let the UNION happen. That attitude is the one that got you block heads in the mess you are in. It is not 4 or 5, IT IS HUNDREDS. Good luck at your next job. Get use to saying "SUPER SIZE THAT"
One interesting thing I found out about the negative and anti-Union comments posted here is the time they were posted were in the regular working hours. It is the time the normal CE would not have for we were very busy!!!??? So, who is this guy??
Even we could not make "GOOD' English,so what?? would it change the fact we need Union??
You can disagree anything but please be honesty and point out what is the better solution for this paycut. Do not just say Union is bad. It made me wondering you are not a CE at all.
Don't you mean comprehensive sentence genius.
Don't you mean comprehensive sentence genius.
we've been following management for years and they can't see the k
light ahead due to the fact "they have their heads up their asses so far no light or sound reaches them"
OK, YOU MAKE SENSE. I'm WILLED TO WORK FOR LESS MONEY SINCE YOU REMINDED ME, I SO STUPID. I BET YOUR FRIENDS CALL YOU FOR ADVICE ON HOW TO RAISE THERE CHILD. I BET IT GOES LIKE THIS. " O William, are you have trouble with little Herbert, I TOLD YOU NOT TO LET HIM ASSOCIATE WITH THE COMMON MAN. I DON'T KNOW IF THE COUNTRY CLUB WILL RENEW YOUR MEMBERSHIP IF THEY HEAR ABOUT THIS. IF I WERE YOU, I WOULD SEND HIM PACKING. MAYBE HE WILL FORGET YOU ARE HIS PARENTS. I REMEMBER WHEN ARE STUPID DAUGHTER, FROM MY WIFE'S SIDE, COULD NOT SPELL CAT. WE SEND HER ON A VACATION, THEN WE MOVE WITH NO FORWARDING ADDRESS. HOPE SHE DOESN'T FIND US. HA, HA, HA.
Don't you mean comprehensive genius.
Many Posters with Hundreds of Readers!
Ever Wonder Why?
NCR needs more Virus / SPAM / Spyware protection than the CIA!
NCR hates that CEs can visit a site that is beyond their control. Where
even Management is welcome to participate. (and they are sometimes
more disgruntled than the CEs)
This is like the old “Coffee Break” where we all got together each day
to discuss Customer & Personal problems. Millions have been spent
by NCR on ways to Segregate the Workers (Divide & Conquer). GPS
tracking, RIM Monitoring, Control Tower Taping, Site Visits, MOT, and
other “Ethical Head Games” are all tactics used by Fascists NOT
Honest Corporations!
Like Peter. Paul, & Mary sang:
When will they ever Learn?
When will they ever Learn!
PAY NO ATTENTION TO THIS MORON.
HE IS THE TYPE OF GUY I BEAT THE CRAP OUT OF IN BARS, I MOP THE FLOOR WITH HIS, I'M SMARTED THAN YOU ATTITUDE. BUT I STRONGER AND MEANER THAN YOU. YOUR THE GUY WHO GOES TO WORK THE NEXT DAY AND SAYS, I WALKED INTO A DOOR LAST NIGHT, AND EVERYONE LAUGHS BEHIND YOUR BACK. KNOWING YOU GOT UR ASS KICKED THE NIGHT BEFORE FOR BEING A JERK.
LOVE,
YOUR DAUGHTER
JENNIFER
Not to sound like Roney King but can't we all just get along here
when are we going to hearfrom union on statsand ect about going to our next step ????
Wishful thinking Bill.
Go Union!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NCR upper management is like all companies, an executives club who's members are only concerned with their own pocketbook. But as a wife of an NCR CE, I work at a facility that has the IBEW. I am not impressed with their leadership. You might want to look at another union.
just having a little fun busting Chris C. chops. i know better, but couldn't help myself.
Tell us about the problems you have with the IBEW? I'm for the UNION. What Union do you recommend? How is the contract of your work place? Are your Union Reps working with you? I was in a union where the reps sold out the workers. So we all have to be careful to elect people who can stand up to management, and work for are best interest, not their ego. We will be as strong as the people we elect. These position are very important.
Also I emailed Chance, 1 year ago, no reply. Try to get New York Union to contact us 5 months ago before pay cuts announced. Told we had to show support before they would help. At that point I don't think I could have got much support. But IBEW has stepped to plate with full support since we contacted them.
Thanks for the input.
Will keep are eyes open.
you can sen txt mess to a sprint phone at phone#@messaging.sprintpcs.com
most of the ce phones are sprint so sent them all txt to get them going
I hope those voting cards come soon! I am voting yes! I am getting close to 200 hours of ot allready this year. They gave us a larger territory to cover, less pay. They want us to be like "Lemmings", drones, mindless people. WE NEED A VOICE!
Not too many Canadians posting. Conditions at work are compareable to the US. Speak up Canadians!!!
TO SEND MULTIPLE TEXT MESSAGES ON SPRINT PHONES GO TO WWW.SPRINT.COM AND YOU'LL SEE AN OPTION THERE TO SEND MESSAGES, UP TO 160 CHARACTERS.
Confessions of an NCR TM
Guys, I know that this is your site and that I shouldn’t be posting here but I just can’t hold this in anymore. NCR hired me to be a Manager then they turned me into an SS Agent through “Fear and Intimidation” techniques that I could not even tell my Priest about at Confession.
I don’t want to be a part of this CE Genocide Policy. I am Truly Sorry.
For some of us English is a secomd or third language. You are showing your ignorance.
It's always nice to have a member of management drop by this blog. It lets all of us know that they are watching and worried about the Union movement within NCR. It also lets everyone know how they really think and feel about the NCR CE's. But we already know we are the scum of this company by the way we are treated. We are called illiterate, vulgar, and simple minded people. Why don't you tell us how you really feel.
Have a nice day.
Mr. Nutti I'm glad you've joined the discussion. We may be illiterate and simple minded but we know when its time to stand up and demand fairness.
To the un-educated person above....Is this how you really feel about people who are truly hurting in this country? Can it be true that people like you are still around dragging your knuckles on the ground? I thank god every day that I still have a job to go to, but if I contunie to just sit here and do nothing I will no longer have a job and be able to support my family. I have been with NCR for 30 + years and would like to retire some day. I have worked very hard these 30 years and have placed my family and friends on the back burner when it came to work. I am sure a lot of you have done the same. I wish this company to do well, but I also wish myself the same. Years back I considered NCR a " GREAT " company to work for. How can I say that now with everything they have done? I have seen alot of good people come and go...people who made the company strong. I felt like I had helped in that conquest, but today I am made to feel like I am a liar, cheater, and most of all a "Number". It saddens me to see what has happened to NCR, a once giant in the world. I use to say NCR was a leader and can now only say it is a follower. People are expressing there feeling here with all there exclamation points....they are hurting and if you cant see that then I feel sorry for you. I myself will vote for a union and encourage everyone I work with to do the same. I learned a very important lesson from my father when he was alive..He instiled in me to not quit when the going gets tough...but also not to let people walk all over you. I will take this to my grave and hope my kids will learn the same. Thanks Dad!!!!!
Everyone, please get the text message below out to as many of your fellow CE's as possible.
Illiterate, vulgar, and simple minded people.
Your management is blogging.
www.ncrworkers.blogspot.com
I tip my hat to you!! Now we have proof that NCR has turned into our worst nightmare.Thanks for your honesty..
Anonymous said...
Confessions of an NCR TM
Guys, I know that this is your site and that I shouldn’t be posting here but I just can’t hold this in anymore. NCR hired me to be a Manager then they turned me into an SS Agent through “Fear and Intimidation” techniques that I could not even tell my Priest about at Confession.
I don’t want to be a part of this CE Genocide Policy. I am Truly Sorry.
It is not surprising that if another viewpoint is posted here it is greeted with vulgarity. That would be the ignorance coming to the fore. I can certainly understand why you need a union to talk for you. If you met face to face with management you would set your cause back on its rear end. You few on this blog are going to find yourselves abandoned by those you hope to drag along with you. I suspect you were abandoned by the intelligent CEs a long while back. And, to answer your question, I am not, nor have I ever been, a manager.
There has been only one manager on this blog with guts enough to admit he was a manager. My hats off to him. I'm sure there are many others visiting this site daily. The problem with you sir is that you think you are better than everyone here. That is a big problem here at NCR, everyone seems to thing they are better than us. Can you repair an Itran or OCE printer? How about rebuilding a Cisco router or replace the drives in a Quantam tape library. How many ATM's have you installed in one day? You are one of the rudest people I have ever heard of. You post on this site and tell everyone here what you think of them and how you are so much better than we are. You may be smart but you are an idiot.
Do eny of u scum sucking CE's see any thin vulgerd abot thet.
Get ER Done
February 26, 2008 4:07 PM
I think I detect an Aussie accent. Hey, aren't the CE's in Australia unionized? Why yes, I believe they are. They went on strike and got what they wanted. A 3% cost of living raise.
Does anyone around here know what a cost of living raise? I didn't think so.
Well what about a plane old raise. Does anyone know what a raise is? Don't know what a raise is either. Well maybe we are just illiterate, vulgar, and simple minded people, but I bet we are gona to get us one of them there Union things.
Anonymous said...
It is not surprising that if another viewpoint is posted here it is greeted with vulgarity. That would be the ignorance coming to the fore. I can certainly understand why you need a union to talk for you. If you met face to face with management you would set your cause back on its rear end. You few on this blog are going to find yourselves abandoned by those you hope to drag along with you. I suspect you were abandoned by the intelligent CEs a long while back. And, to answer your question, I am not, nor have I ever been, a manager.
February 26, 2008
Then what are you? You can not be a ce.. Maybe a RATT, opps I mean a newly appointed RTSS. Dont even thinks about coming to NY and cross a picket line if there is a strike. IT WON'T BE PRETTY!
I won't be crossing any picket lines. I retired from NCR after 40 years. I went through the "you bet your job" tests every Friday morning. That was when a Technical Services Representative (CE is an AT&T term and I always hated it)had to know how to troubleshoot and repair to the component on equipment like the 395, 400. We also repaired our circuit boards on later equipment. I did the iTran as well as the 7780, 7750, 775, and 450. I went to Chicago and learned all of the OCE printers. I repaired, maintained, and installed all of the ATMs beginning with the 1780. I doubt there is anything you've done that I haven't, including the self-checkouts. I never once said I was smarter than any of you. That was your assumption, although I tend to agree with you. Once again, let me say, if you're going to follow someone, choose wisely.
To the person who RETIRED:
I would appreciat any suggestion that matters to you and me. Anything happens to us now does not affect you any BIT since you've already retired. 1% or 30% of pay cut has no difference to you AT ALL. We need a constructive suggestion not" this is no good, that is no good, nothing is good."
You would have a nice pension for the rest of your life. You are lucky because you retired before NCR turn bad. Do you know We lost the pension???? now our pay is reducing.
If you do not have any better idea to help us, please keep silence.
I agree with the guy who wrote the previous entry
If you read back through all these posts
Well I guess I’ll be number six. I’m hoping my comments will not be perceived as vulgar, illiterate or simpleminded (yeah no space). I’ve been with NCR back when there was a culture within the company. You were hired based on your skills, then given the opportunity to grow both mentally and financially within the organization. Those were great times. Unfortunately, this is no longer the case. NCR has adopted the new US Corporate mindset that enables major financial rewards to a very small percentile of the organization. This is not just an NCR problem. It’s a problem reverberating throughout the US and mind you not going away anytime soon. Having said that, I am also a member of the UNION. Reading the comments posted (I truly believe it’s more than 4 or 5 people) it is imperative that you vote UNION. I cannot imagine what they would have me doing and at what pay were it not for our Union’s contract. Even then, we are still forced to perform unethical practices to achieve benchmark numbers, which, for the most part we have no control over. I believe that a man or woman should be paid their fair market value. And I believe every NCR CE deserves respect from corporate. Vote UNION!
if you are in the mid west then your contact is
Josh Bruns
660-466-0333
Joshua_Bruns@ibew.org
he is the rep for the 648 groop
call him
you can allso call
Richard Brockman
816-285-8323
rbrockman@ibewlocaL124.org
with the local 124
in k.c. mo.
In the Atlanta region , call Bob Hayes 404 788 0235
Who do we call in Louisiana?
IBEW LOUISIANA
LOCAL UNION #130
3200 Ridgelake Drive, Suite #400
Metairie, LA 70002-4930
Telephone: (504)831-1372
Fax: (504)834-1410
IBEW130@bellsouth.net
It sounds to me like the people who are so anti-union are either managers, or CE's who receive extra privilages for sucking up to management. One thing you can believe, ALL of the upper management people are working WITH contracts. They have contracts to keep NCR from doing to them what they are doing to us. Our only hope is to vote union so we may all have contracts too. Between the Union movement, the age discrimination lawsuits, and a few other intms, NCR may eventually see that we mean business. Remember, the more of this mistreatment you put up with, the more of it you're going to get. If you have not heard from a local IBEW rep yet, make the call youself, they are in the phonebook. MAKE THE CALL. They wont know you are interested until YOU let them know. VOTE UNION, or learn to love being screwed over constantly
Hello all, There has been a Class Action Lawsuit filed against NCR for missed wages and so forth dealing with lunches, admin time and so on. The lawsuit has started in California. I have a copy of it and sent it to Steve Smith to maybe post it on the blog for all to review. It's to large too paste in the blog.
Call the Lawyer representing this case, Matt Dameron at 816-714-7137 for more information.
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